Guns For Protection.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by see you next tuesday, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know what? It wasn't your time, but when it is, what I said will ring true.
     
  2. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    Bull Poop !!!

    Everything points to your fallacious statement, We have all manner of protection from dangers that could kill us otherwise, from smoke, fire electricity, radio waves etc..... Do try and learn.
     
  3. der wüstenfuchs

    der wüstenfuchs Member

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    No amount of bullets can stop you from dying. That is true, but saying no amount of bullets being able to make a difference is a load of crap. If killing an attacker to save your life gives you 10, 20, maybe even 50 more years on this earth that's making a difference.
     
  4. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What happens if a metorite hits the city where you live? No amount of bullets will save your life. Somehow I don't think you really can understand the point i'm trying to get across.
     
  5. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    I do not agree really, if you shoot the cause of your death before you get killed, you will not die from that cause, and after, if you fart and die, even if you only lived a few minutes more, it was worth it.

    https://youtu.be/mWq15lDh8yM
     
  6. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Somebody says...

    Your comment is,

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    Astounding.

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  7. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreeably, if it's not your time to go. No amount of bullets, medicines, doctors, etc can prevent you from dying when it's your time. I believe it's predetermined, but then again I don't expect you nor most people to agree with me on this.
     
  8. der wüstenfuchs

    der wüstenfuchs Member

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    That's what I mean. On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero. We will all someday. Nobody lives forever. Killing someone that is trying to kill you can buy you a few more minutes of life or a few more decades either way it DOES make a difference.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about that eh? Did you know that if you posted a sign like in your yard, it could bring bad karma to you. :)
     
  10. der wüstenfuchs

    der wüstenfuchs Member

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    Of course we don't agree because it's absurd to think that everything that happens was inevitable and every choice we made was already determined by fate.
     
  11. DoctorWho

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    That is still a load of Crap, I have proved not true, sure People die of mere old age, or an acute or chronic attack or illness, however, Medications and surgical intervention and self defense do make a difference.

    I fully understand, you want to ban Guns, and your excuse is that everyone will die sooner or later, so why not let a Criminal kill you and decide for you ?

    A true Oxymoron if ever there was.

    And to add, It is even funnier still, if You are an Atheist.
     
  12. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your right; that's were we differ in agreement.

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    I don't think you'll be able to really understand my point, so its best that you and I move on regarding this thread.
     
  13. DoctorWho

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    You do what you want, You don't Rule me or tell Me what to do.

    Don't take Medications or call an Ambulance, IF you want to die so badly.

    I will.
     
  14. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No need to be so combative towards me because you disagree with my viewpoint. Take notice that nowhere have I ruled or told you what to do in this thread.
     
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    one of the cops joked that "if some mope messed up my cookies I would have shot him five more times"!
     
  16. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Nah... Truth is exempt from bad karma...

    If you should meet a criminal with a gun intent on robbing you or worse, you can try that tactic and remind the criminal bad karma might be the result... See if it works and report back. Should work as well as gun free zones...

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    Which makes sense? This,

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    Or this?

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  18. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I said putting a sign on your property would result in bad karma, not telling a criminal with a gun the same. You just have to get it right. Btw there are no exemptions granted.
     
  19. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    When you are ready to have a conversation in the real world, stop back. In the meantime, in your reality what color are unicorn horns?
     
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    I am not Combative, I simply speak on a topic if I want to.

    And I find Apathetic views on life hypocritical and falsely Sanctimonious even Pompous with a pinch of Hubris, a Recipe for Disaster.
     
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    What I always find humorous is that pacifists always need to be protected by those with guns to survive as pacifists...
     
  22. DoctorWho

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    They Pass-the-Fist, pass over responsibility for their own safety.

    They also seem to have issues with taking responsibility for ones actions, they would rather blame inanimate objects for Crime, rather than blame Criminals and Criminal behavior.
     
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    In the mean time I want a way to defend myself. It's also why I buckle my seat belt.

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    I doubt that fast.
     
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    1 mach (ma) = 1,125.33 feet per second (ft/sec)

    9 mm 115 grain FMJ Ammo = 1145 fps = Mach 1
     
  25. der wüstenfuchs

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    That's a cop-out if I ever heard one. By your reasoning the jerk wad that plowed through the crowd in Nice did nothing wrong because it was just their time to die. That jack wagon that shot up the gay club in Orlando didn't do anything wrong because their number was up. Luis Garavito didn't do anything wrong by raping, torturing, and murdering 147 little boys that we know about and possibly more because it was fate that decided they had to die. Josef Mengele wasn't a monster for performing those barbaric genetic experiments because the choice to play with bodies was not his choice to make. Fate forced him to do it against his will. Your ideology that everything is predetermined not only ignores the obvious fact that certain actions can change the outcome of a situation it absolves anyone of guilt for their actions because if nothing can change the outcome (which is BS) then nothing is wrong and nothing is right. <Rule 2>
     

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