Half the country are traitors.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by modernpaladin, Jul 18, 2018.

  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Secession isn't the only the option though. The States could amend the constitution and dissolve the union that way.
     
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    Nah, the left is shrinking rapidly as more and more people #WalkAway. As the dems lose more power they will see the liberal progressive ideology is not worth hanging on to.
     
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    Can you name an administration where the misfits and radicals on either side didn't yap about secession?
     
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    I didn't realize that 25% of the country were "misfits" and "radicals".

    And in case you forgot, America was founded on act of secession by some of the most radical thinkers in history. Why, secession and radicalism are as American as apple pie.
     
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    What utter nonsense. It's clear that you have little love of your country, assuming you are an American.
    The US has weathered other seditious antics from malcontents who hate their country over the years and the current demagoguery coming from trump and his supporters will suffer the same fate.
    We've had commie sympathizers, nazi sympathizers, kkk sympathizers and assorted other idiots try to destabilize the US for their own political agendas, but the majority of the American people are not extremists and are repelled by them.
    Your idiot idea will only spawn another civil war, turn the US into a balkanized shithole and let the russians and chinese take over the world.
    It couldn't be a stupider plan, unless you are promoting foreign interests.
    Enjoy living in a world where the US can't defend itself from the predations of our opponents and competitors.
     
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    The political union between the States is not the country. The country, America, predates the union.

    Therefore, dissolving the union would not result in the dissolution of the country itself. To think otherwise is simply asinine.
     
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    Secession from a MONARCHY...
     
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    Secession from an empire, which is what the US has become.
     
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    Each side needs to get over themselves. We have gotten to a place where each side thinks their way is the only and 'right' way. We don't even want to listen to the other side anymore. We USED to listen to the other side. We still may not have agreed, but we listened and we didn't label them as traitors, racists, snowflakes, etc.
    We've basically reduced ourselves to acting like a bunch of junior high school kids.
     
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    And when was that, exactly?
     
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    Prior to social media where everyone is an internet toughguy who just shouts down other people and labels people they disagree with as traitors, racists, snowflakes.
    Prior to groups like ANTIFA, who would rather be violent towards those they disagree with instead of peacefully protesting.
    Prior to assuming anyone who looks Mexican must be here illegally.
     
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    This entire situation is the creation of the usual suspects.
    It's their way of controlling We the People,acting as if Authoritarians
    and changing language.Or using Uber Political Correctness,which
    isn't correctness but Authoritarianism.What George Orwell was
    hinting at.Use of Doublespeak and also Groupthink as tools to
    deny a first amendment guaranteed right of Free Speech.
    Where Speech is only free when the Speech Police decide when
    and where.

    1984 { 1949 }
    " Big brother is watching you.
    Newspeak.
    Doublethink.
    Who controls the past controls the future,
    who controls the present controls the past. "
    -- George Orwell { ne Eric Blair }
     
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    Unfortunately it's only going to get worse
     
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    So you think that sort of behavior is limited only to recent times?
     
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    I think it's far worse now
     
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    Worse than when the northern and southern States were slaughtering one another by the hundreds of thousands?
     
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    I was talking in the context of the OP.
     
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    Just yesterday CA Supremes stepped in to keep secession off the ballot, sooner or later people will stop listening to courts that interferes with the will of the people and voting.

    It will come to a head.
     
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    I'm just trying to get an idea of when exactly Americans were civil towards one another. I don't believe such a time actually existed, nor do I believe that it could exist. The US is simply too big and unwieldy for it to exist as a consolidated political entity. There has always been and will always be large factions who harbor irreconcilable differences with one another.
     
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    And polls show that the younger someone is, the more likely they are to support or condone secession.
     
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    I've heard that many times over the years.. Why do you want to dissolve the union?
     

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