Homeless residents brag about makeshift 'mansion' near Seattle's famed Space Needle

Short of putting a bullet in the backs of their heads and pushing them all into shallow graves you've got to do something with this human
rubbish that collects in Seattle. You literally cannot ignore the problem, liberal "bleeding heart" or not.

 

Pot is legal throughout the state. Nobody has to come to Seattle for pot.

It's not usually the case that the city finds where homeless people are and then provides weekly garbage service - though that is provided in some places.

Plus, you aren't seeing all the homelessness - people are cherry picking pictures from various times and places. Many homeless are living in vehicles, for example.

Some are living near services that provide garbage collection and clean-up facilities people use before they go to their jobs.

 

And no has to go to New York city but they all like to do it. People LIKE hanging out in cool Seattle, it seems.

They aren't the health problem and public eye sore that these homeless encampments that take up under over passes (I've seen more than a few) are. So I'm not sure what the point is. Are all homeless people a menace? No.

Like I said. Not all homeless people are the problem.

 

It's unfortunate, but when lots of people come here for the up-scale jobs and other stuff they like, it means the cost of living goes up. Rent/shelter is expensive and is going up as fast or faster than other places in America.

The result is that a lot of people are having a hard time finding shelter.

I'm glad you recognize that the problem isn't "one size fits all".

Seattle is raising the minimum wage, encouraging more organized shelters (such as Roots) and organized camp sites (w/ church sponsors, for example), providing better services so people can live and go to work without creating a mess, adjusting housing regulation (to allow tiny living spaces, fewer parking spaces to keep building cost down, requiring more of development to be in the affordable range, etc.), making more places inhospitable to campers, adjusting law regarding living in vehicles, adopting the Salt Lake City plan of assisting with move-in costs for those who can pay rent & utilities, ... and loads of other stuff involving government, churches and individuals.

I don't believe for a second that Seattle is the only city working on this issue as one of it's top 2 or 3 issues.

 

If you 'round all the homeless up' it won't be 24-hours until you have hyperliberal 'advocacy' groups all over you, as thick as lice in a Mexican jail! They'd bitch and complain, get injunctions against you, restraining orders, appeals to friendly judges (where they have fellow-libs firmly ensconced), and be poised and ready to sue you and your city to death for any inconvenience or annoyance, real or imagined, that the homeless bums allege you have caused them. Nice general idea you've had, but no cigar! Anything short of total, unending handout welfare in abundant amounts is completely 'unacceptable' to these über-socialistic, rabidly liberal socialists....

 

Oh I know all about veterans and PTSD .. trust me. When they are formally diagnosed, subsequent to active service in a theatre of war and exposure to an officially recognised stressor event, then they should have access to full care - including housing.

Poor example, try again.

 

So beggars can be choosers?

 

Because they're dysfunctional asshats and addicts. And yes, they DO want to live that way, if it means not having to pull their socks up.

 

There are plenty of homeless veterans. Nothing poor about this example.

 

Homeless veterans who cannot support themselves due to service-related injuries or sickness should be given 100% disability -- no questions asked! They should also be given 100% healthcare at NO cost to them.

I may despise handout welfare, and I've got no use whatever for homeless 'camper' bums trashing our cities, but honorably-discharged veterans are an entirely different thing altogether!

 

I doubt very much that they're all qualified veterans. By qualified, I mean diagnosed with PTSD subsequent to QUALIFIED stressor event in a theatre of war. I suspect the majority are malingerers, who happen to have military service.

 

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100%

 

I'm not so sure anyone would like this idea of rounding up people not being charged for a crime.

And, whoever does this roundup would then be responsible for those they rounded up.

Beyond that, rounding up people who have jobs on the grounds that they aren't paid enough to rent an apartment seems a little ridiculous, doesn't it? I mean, they would probably lose their job, and thus become a burden.

I strongly suspect you're just venting.

 

Well, as Fun-er, as it may be to blame former President Obama for the common cold and homelessness, hit re-wind back to President Herbert Hoover and the homelessness epidemic.
This has always been a problem.

 

If you had paid any attention at all to the post that you were really replying to you'd know that the "roundup" idea was one put forth by @Yourbestfriend in Post #124. But you were in a big hurry to condemn me for "venting", so, you've made yourself look a little "ridiculous" and silly.

Moreover, if you'd read my post at all, you'd have seen that I do not (NOT) advocate such a homeless bum "roundup", for all the reasons I cited. All this would accomplish is painting a bullseye on whatever government and/or police department that conducted it. The ACLU would come swooping in with briefcases full of obstruction, lawsuits, restraining orders, etc.

Next time, I suggest that you attribute posts you wish to attack to the correct author....

 

I went back and looked at the post I responded to in #124.

I don't see my first two paragraphs as being particularly critical of you or your ideas.

And, the post I was responding to still comes across as venting - the ACLU swooping down, total unending handouts, "über-socialistic, rabidly liberal socialists", etc., etc.

 

You think so? Rent in Seattle is 2k+, parking is $500+ a month, car insurance, can be upwards of $450 just cause of the city....

Some of those people living under that bridge make in excess of $30k/yr. Literally wake up go to work, 19/hr a day, come home to sleep under a bridge...
If they don't have kids...whats the problem?

 

The leftist utopias can keep them, its only fitting...

 

Well, I agree that Seattle's cost of living is high (like in a number of other cities) and that many who are homeless absolutely do work, etc.

But, I don't believe we can say there is no problem. The general population of those who are homeless, including those who live in organized shelters, "church camps", etc., do present problems at a higher rate than the general population. And, those living under bridges, or whatever, tend to have a higher rate of problems with mental health, substance abuse, security, sanitation, etc.

 

Yes this is true...I blame that on the closing down of mental health facilitys that cannot base their existence on profit as a motive to stay open for that problem though.

 

Well geographically, if their poor it is better to live in a city, as work living in rural areas generally requires at least 20+ miles of walking just to get anywhere.

Id imagine a majority can no longer obtain a drivers license for what ever reason.

 

I would say just the opposite.

It is the right wing who dumped those with mental health problems onto our streets.

It's the right wing that consistently fights against affordable housing.

It's the right wing that advocates in favor of gigantic wage disparity, leaving those with minimum wage jobs no way to compete for housing.

It's the right wing that blocks health care for those at the low end, which is one of the pushes toward bankruptcy, loss of jobs due to illness, and the move toward opioids when pain management is made unavailable.

It's the right wing that pushes against public transportation, leaving it harder for those without personal transportation to compete for jobs due to commuter limits.

In fact, it is the right wing that is totally uninterested in finding solutions - as noted by your own post!



What we're fighting here IS a right wing problem.

 

You do realize that this only demonstrates what a failure lefty ideology really is. They advocate the opposite of the righties you blame, and even while they have control, they are incapable of dealing with it. Which is exactly why its fitting these homeless are in lefty land...

 

Interesting you should think that, the midwest still thinks were in a recession considering the reasons they voted for Trump, and for low pay manufacturing jobs to return.

Possibley the fact that its hard enough to find any abandoned home in lefty land is why they have to resort to the bridge...In red territory's there's an abundance of abandoned homes for them to squat in.