Homeless residents brag about makeshift 'mansion' near Seattle's famed Space Needle

I didn't say one word about supporting a "big corporation". A "Big Corporation" has absolutely NOTHING to do with homeless bums crapping up every place they go. Personally, I don't give a damn where they go, so long as they don't break any laws when they get wherever it is they're going....

So you want to give these people everything for free, on top of all the handout welfare most of them have had through all the Obama years? I suggest YOU lead these homeless mobs on an exodus to the last remaining Communist Paradise on Earth -- North Korea. Oh, and after you get them there (at your own expense, of course), please make sure that YOU stay there, too! You can all enjoy the wonders of communal living together.

 

Like I told Mister Bleeding-heart a moment ago, I don't care where they go. It's up to them as free American citizens to go wherever they want to go -- so long as they don't break any laws when they get wherever they're going.

Oh, BTW, unless I'm wrong, it is illegal in every place in the United States to do the following:

1. "Camp" or "Set up living quarters" in areas where this is illegal.
2. Start fires of any kind in an area which has been declared under HIGH FIRE DANGER, or, RED FLAG danger.
3. Accumulate piles of trash in any area where this is illegal.
4. Deliberately pollute creeks and streams in any area where this is illegal.
5. Sh*t in public in any area where this illegal.
6. Piss in public in any area where this illegal.
7. Conduct aggressive panhandling in any area where this is illegal.

Outside of that, I don't care what they do... why should I? Personally, I don't care if they get drunk, stoned, or whatever -- just as long as ALL of us obey the laws and live in a civilized manner, each of us should have the freedom to do what we wish....

 

The actions you suggest would do nothing but criminalize and persecute the homeless. You can only actually fix these problems through addressing the factors that cause homelessness, like the fact that America is a hellish cyberpunk dystopia with no wages.

 

ALL of us are equal before the law. That is the foundation of our society. ALL of us must obey the law -- rich and poor. Those few, simple things I listed are nothing special. Anyone who is CIVILIZED would see that immediately.

What should "we", the American taxpayers, do to continue to help the homeless? I don't know, and I no longer care. Anybody who wanted to simply give up, roll over, and live on welfare of many different kinds all during the eight years of the Obama regime had an easy time doing it -- and they still do! Fortunately, many people used the welfare smorgasbord to turn their lives around, adjust to the "new normal", get a job in today's hot employment market, and start supporting themselves. But, some did not. Oh, well... that was, and it remains, THEIR CHOICE.

Whatever. It doesn't give anyone the right to break the law, spread disease, pollute the waterways and countryside, and, thrust numerous kinds of danger and criminal activity on anyone who has the misfortune to be close to where they have 'flopped' down....

 

All your talk about equality and **** really falls flat in the face of the reality that America isn't actually anything like that. Like, rich people are doing all of those things 1000x harder and I don't expect you to ever give a **** about that.

 

We could build a facility for them in the desert.

Cheap enough to pay for itself with the labor they provide.

 

Don't you get it at all? There is no government "solution", and there never was supposed to be one! Each of us is born free and equal under the Constitution and before the Law, and each of us is free to choose what kind of life we want to live.

With the exception of those born with REAL disabilities, or who are afflicted with terrible, often incurable diseases, or who have suffered disabling injuries, there is NO justifiable reason why government (THE TAXPAYERS) should have to provide any of these other people with a welfare lifestyle. We shouldn't have to put up with them spreading disease, spreading filth and trash, and causing numerous other kinds of pollution, hazards and dangers everywhere they go....

 

And once again we see yet another bleeding-heart Liberal who absolutely refuses to acknowledge that these "problems" are caused as a result of piss-poor decisions that individual, free people make regarding their own lives! I never said or meant that all of us are born with the same amount of money, or that we will automatically be guaranteed of having money, success, or happiness. Unless you hit the lottery, inherit it, or marry into it, you've got to WORK for it!

What we as American citizens have guaranteed is "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"! Every homeless bum I know of has had life, liberty, and the ability to make choices that enable him/her to pursue happiness! ALL of them. If they choose to throw their lives away instead, why is that the responsibility of all American taxpayers...?! I'll die waiting for any of you myopic, sob-sister libs to give me a straight answer to that question....

 

And exactly WHO was president when all this wretched homeless blight in our cities surged so dramatically?

Now, add to that the fact that liberal Democrats have done nothing but fight Donald Trump like a rabid pack of mad dogs ever since he came into the White House. So, NO, in his 'spare time' he hasn't been able to curb liberal judges, the ACLU, or local hyperliberal municipal bureaucracies that encourage, permit, and abet the invasion of American cities by hordes of irresponsible homeless bums.

Question -- can you name one likely contender as a Democrat presidential candidate who would be willing to flush this ruinous crap out of our cities? Just ONE?[/QUOTE]

How long have there been homeless folks in this country?

Many of the homeless are veterans, but if we listen to the right they care so much about our veterans.

Here is a right wingers reducing homeless folks to creatures.

 

The "labor they provide"? What makes you think they will be useful, worthwhile laborers? Whether they are lazy or crazy, the fact that they are now homeless doesn't point to a strong work ethic or sense of responsibility amongst the non-crazy ones. I would be hesitant to be too optimistic that they'd become productive hard workers if they were relocated. Not saying it wouldn't be worth a shot, because clearly something has to be done, but I would be cautiously optimistic about any such venture.

 

Yeah, I don't really feel like getting in the way of your religion here. "The American Dream" is a manic-psychotic spiritual pursuit. The idea that America is meritocratic has no basis in reality.

 

This doesn't have to do with Obama.

If it had to do with any president, it would be the president during whose administration the job market crashed.

BUSH.

 

So all you do is to sit there and whine without a solution. Have fun then, dealing with your aggravations.

 

"Get rid of" is not a phrase that anyone has ANY right to apply to human beings.

Here in Seattle the problem boils down to the city being expensive to live in, with decreasing opportunities for rent in a range that can be paid by minimum wage workers.

(Yes. Many of these people ARE working.)

Solving that problem is not something that happens immediately.

Also, there exists no single solution. For example, we have homeless people here who CAN pay the rent. But, they can't pay the full bill for moving in - first & last month, deposit, utilities start up, etc. We also have "homeless" who are making reasonable money at real jobs, but who are living in their cars, etc., in order to save up for a down payment on a house.

It's NOT a problem that has one size and shape. So, it also requires a variety of solutions.

All I've heard from you is the idea of moving the problem somewhere else. And, that isn't a solution.

 

Aint America Great again? The rich and the poor alike are forbidden from living under bridges. How can you say it is a prejudiced policy?

 

As far as I can tell, homelesness went down every year under Obama, except for the last one, and veteran homelesness went down almost by half. Lets see how it goes under Trump.

 

I guess based on your comments, you are prepared to say that all of these "victims" are lacking basic attributes to gain fully employment? That none of them are addicted to drugs? None of them desire this lifestyle to that of working? All of them completed at least a high school education and didn't get pregnant before 20 years old?

Its easy to blame an economic system, while completely and utterly ignoring personal responsibility. Making them victims is convenient, and also full of ****.

 

So instead, people dependent on others in urban centers, because at the very minimum they can't sustain themselves?

 

How many jobs do you know that will hire people who are homeless?

 

You don't see the connection between empathy and dependency?

 

So people crossing illegally from our southern border, with nothing but the shirts on their backs, can find jobs, but these people can't? They could.

 

So, when people realize that housing is provided for free... who wouldn't just sell the housing they bought with their hard earned cash and get free housing?

The problem with your perspective is that it is short sighted, ignores the human element, and fails to see that its not sustainable over time.

 

How many farms you know that want elderly, addicts, and mentally ill picking their crops? Also, illegals usually either have family already in the US or have friends they can stay with.

 

What a bunch of myopic, liberal ninnies! NOT one of you bothered to respond to make any observations about a person taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for himself, WORKING to achieve what a person wants in life, or how disastrous eight long years of a Welfare Circus under Comrade Obama did nothing but create thousands upon thousands more government-dependent parasites, drunks, drug-addicts, and worthless bums in our society. Not one of you bothered to suggest that maybe -- just MAYBE -- these 'homeless campers' should have taken advantage of all the welfare handouts to actually IMPROVE themselves and then take advantage of today's 4.1% unemployment rate.

Hint: there were 'jobs' even back in 2009, when the recession ended. And there are even one HELL of a lot more jobs now! If you can actually DO something, and, be sober and clear-minded enough to bother to SHOW UP!

No. All I'm seeing from bleeding-heart libs here is how much MORE we're all supposed to give, in MORE handout welfare to a permanent underclass of "Proles" -- very much as those described by George Orwell in his masterpiece, "1984". All I can say is that I hope libs are satisfied with this sickening, disgusting, dangerous phenomenon -- which is the inevitable result when welfare handouts go WILD, shoveled out by hyperliberal, wanna-be socialist factions like that headed by conniving politicians like Barack Hussein Obama and the Far Left!

 

looks like about 1 out of 10 of the Seattle homeless are Somali refugees/migrants


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