Homeless residents brag about makeshift 'mansion' near Seattle's famed Space Needle

You should probably learn exactly when a recession ends according to economists. You might learn something.

 

There is no question that the " system" has been concentrating America's wealth at the top at an increasing rate for about the last forty years. Now you may well believe that this movement of wealth is the result of the fact that personal virtue has been increasingly concentrated in the top few percent but personally I find it hard to accept and believe rather that the rich own and have stacked the system increasingly to their benefit.

That by the way is not to say that the change has no occurred with the consent of the masses as indicated by the fact that America did elect Trump who promptly did a tax cut that overwhelmingly benefitted the rich so in some ways I guess the bottom 90% deserve what they have voted for.

 

I get so tired of "the system" this and "the system" that, all whilst people take zero responsibility themselves for their own circumstances, and expect "the government" to swoop in and take care of them instead.

That's not the mentality that built America or made America great.

 

YOU should probably learn exactly when the 'Great Recession' ended, according to economists. YOU might learn something:

"According to the U.S. National Bureau of Economic Research (the official arbiter of U.S. recessions) the recession, as experienced in that country, began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009, thus extending over 19 months. The Great Recession was related to the financial crisis of 2007–08 and U.S. subprime mortgage crisis of 2007–09. The Great Recession resulted in the scarcity of valuable asset in the market economy and the collapse of the financial sector (banks) in the world economy. The banks were then bailed out by the U.S. government."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession . Emphasis mine.

 

Follow my statement in its full context, paladin.... Yes, strictly speaking, it is legal for them to go to, per se, most of these places -- BUT, it is NOT legal for them to set up housekeeping and "camping" in nearly all of these places, and it isn't legal for them to break laws specifically forbiding public drunkenness, starting outdoor fires when 'RED FLAG' fire danger conditions have been declared, public ILLEGAL drug use, deliberately spreading filth, trash, and disease, and, pissing and sh*tting in public, either. Are we clear now...?

 

Some of the nicest people I know are homeless and I would provide more public bathrooms and free housing for the homeless to use. I'd also impose a law requiring businesses to hire all homeless applicants and free medical and psychological care for them. Also businesses should be banned from throwing out a homeless person and homeless people should be allowed to camp in any non-road place even yards.

 

Well, I'm happy for you. I hope you never have to look at their piles of trash, never have to watch them puking on themselves and falling down in their own sh*t and urine. I hope you never have to smell their campsites, and watch them pollute what were once clean creeks and streams with their filth. And I hope you never have to go fight the wildfires covering hundreds of acres that run out of control -- which started in their illegal campsites. Enjoy your lovely, delusional life... the rest of us have to deal with reality....

. Bleeding heart, hyperliberal, touchy-feely land, where everything and everyone is WONDERFUL!

 

Well I'm poor on SSI and I for one shouldn't ever be homeless if I am willing to relocate to someplace I can afford to live, with my dad and I sharing costs I can live here in Tampa Bay but if needed I am planning to move where I can afford and looked at place were I have relatives to help a bit. But the government can help with long term urban plans with affordable broad housing options in them Indianapolis did that assuming they need to house all kinds of households from those on government welfare long term to working poor to upper lower class to middle class and the wealthy, so why can't other places plan better? I can afford to pay per month for housing with utilities around $500 maximum so need housing that is in the range of. If I go to Indianapolis I'll be near family my uncle and his family, can get a nice long term residential motel room for $450 a month with a lease and add in $30 for tipping the maids in a decent area or find other options in that range or less, have access to fine mass transit and being a gamer have lots of gaming shops and GenCon the biggest hobby game faire in the world once a year so socializing should be excellent for me. The cold is an issue but its well not going to keep me from going there. And its better than Alabama and some other options I looked at.

But for some of the homeless there maybe its simply lack of housing if they get government checks from some source could I live IN Seattle its unlikely, so maybe some help moving these people to other states would be good. For others its likely they are addicts, alcoholics or mentally ill so bad employment isn't likely and they are in a bad place personally or too proud to ask for help.

 

Big corporation that you support pollute far more globally than a homeless person ever will. How can you expect the homeless to care about society when society treats them like animals? If the government allowed free housing along-side the non-homeless maybe they wouldn't make such a mess. Plus, its really easy to hire an unregistered immigrant to help clean the messes. We can help illegals and the homeless at the same time.

 

Well sure. But where should they go instead?

You've very clearly identified the problem. What is the solution?

 

There is PLENTY of cheap housing outside of cities.

 

O.M.G

sooooo naive

 

You blame the "system" for shipping jobs overseas, yet now you turn around and blame the victims of that "system" for being where they are. Unemployment is around 4.1%. Tell me, what are those 4.1% are supposed to do?? Sure, some of those people are on drug, mentally ill......but what about the rest? what is the solution? All I hear is whining from the "conservatives" with no solutions.

 

Instead of wasting on money on a wall, or sending money to other countries that can already support themselves, the government could use the money to build these tiny home communities for the homeless people that wish to better themselves:

https://www.curbed.com/2016/4/14/11433112/tiny-houses-buy-escape-84-lumber-shelter-wise

Have tight guidelines on cleanliness have property managers to make sure it doesn't end up like a dump. Occupants must agree to a job training program to get back on their feet.

 

My best guess is it increases their National census numbers. To do anything about it would drive them away.

 

It's never any Democrats fault ever they only ever speak the gospel truth. And they're like Jesus in a way. We wouldn't have any problems ever if there were only Democrats. Life would be perfect.

This is the mentality you're arguing against it isn't sane. Its tribalism.

 

thank God you are not in charge.

 

I don't think lack of cheap housing is why there is homeless people.

 

So we need to house them in ghettos? You know what happens when you put a ghetto in the middle of the city? People that spend a thousand to $2,000 a month on a place to live don't want to live next to bums. Theymove out. Property values plummet and property taxes drop.

Building and keto is a sure-fire way to destroy a city or at least this subdivision.

 

Why not work on these groups first veterans with benefits, disabled people on SSDI and SSI, working homeless people and house them first guess what these groups aren't troublemakers or will be major issues so housing them in lower cost housing is best and who aren't bums. Do what some cities do if a developer wants to do a high cost rent project they must build affordable basic housing or pay into a fund to encourage such development with good tax cuts and breaks included for the latter. Another option might be to build lower income communities outside of the city connected by light rail and needed services and retail near their new community. Both are viable options.

 

Homeless people are not homeless because housing prices are too high.

 

Seriously, lets see you earn lets say $1200 a month, rents are $1000 a month then add in utilities and essentials and food and the costs to perhaps have a car if needed for ones work so yes housing prices are a problem. I get $750.50 a month and rent here is $835 a month shared with my father if I was alone yes I would be homeless since even a rented cheap motel is more than I make per month here. So are you so dense to understand in many cases housing is the issue if a homeless person earning or getting too little to get housing they live on the street or in their cars/vans or some other kind of none secure arrangement or you relocate to where it is affordable. If one has job how likely is that even if part-time its a guaranteed income you move you might not have that.

 

No i still don't think housing costs are the problem.

 

We're talking about society - so of course "the system" is concerned. What, you think a single individual (Obama!) is responsible?

 

Its not like they became homeless the moment he left office as if his regime was the only thing preventing it.

And how come these mass homeless incidents are always occurring in liberal strongholds?