Homeless residents brag about makeshift 'mansion' near Seattle's famed Space Needle

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  1. wgabrie

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    You know why there are homeless people??? Lack of cheap housing. Do you know what cities lack??? Cheap housing.
     
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    Welcome to TRUMP'S AMERICA! :smfh:
     
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    The Walking Dead is no longer fiction.
     
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    You know why they lack cheap housing? Democrats with money don't want these people near them.
     
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    But they want the park and riverfront teaming with homeless people like wading through a sea of rats???

    We need housing that is less than $500 a month rent. In a place that the rent is usually $1000-$2000+ a month.
     
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    $500 a month for people without a job, a desire to work, mental illness, drug addiction, or whatever might as well be $5000 a month.

    They can't afford either.
     
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    True, but with section 8 housing no one has to pay more than 1/3 their income to rent an apartment. We should have more public housing as well as homes for the disabled and mentally disabled.
     
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    What's 1/3 of zero? Ah yes, free apartments for drug addicts and people that don't want to work. I'm sure they'll take great care of their free government housing provided by you and I.

    The city should put them to work cleaning the city for the ones who can, lock up the drug addicts, and get help for the mentally ill by committing them.
     
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    The bears are notoriously cheap regarding handouts to panhandlers. So not surprised.
     
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    You know what? This problem with the homelessness in cities is astonishing to me. Mainly because it wasn't that long ago that the homeless were disappearing on their own. This was after Trump got elected. I guess they all got jobs and improved their fate. Or they got "disappeared" by mysterious unmarked white vans. One of those two.
     
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    There is a theme here.

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    and that theme is? Large population centers have more homeless than small population centers?
     
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    From 2009 to 2017, Obama blamed everything on Bush.
     
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    We're shipping them off to red states as fast as we can!

    Where do you suggest that they go?
     
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    This condition probably started under Hoover and Cleveland. Familiarliarize yourself with our past history....Hoovervilles, anyone?...To suggest that Obama, Democrats, Liberals or and other certain political types or political parties are solely responsible for the problem of homelessness is ridiculous...The reason there are so many homeless people today is that so called conservatives systematically dismantled and defunded most of the state and federal mental health infrastructure which was in place until the mid '70s leaving our mentally ill population to either rot on the streets or languish in county jails. The way we treat our mentally ill is a disgrace to our great country.
     
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    Where should they go? It's a free country. They can go wherever it is legal for them to go, so long as they observe the laws! It is not the responsibility of the government to figure out where they should go....
     
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    Nonsense! So now you're advocating that we blame this on Herbert Hoover?! Are you nuts? This isn't 1930! And you invite me to "familiarize" myself "with our past history"?! What fatuous bullshit! We've had countless "booms and busts" since Herbert Hoover was president.... If you 'familiarize" yourself with American history, you can see rather clearly that this current explosion in the numbers of roving bands of 'homeless campers' started during Comrade Obama's regime -- even though he was running the biggest Welfare Circus we've ever seen for the full eight years of his miserable reign.

    Today the unemployment rate is 4.1%... what the hell is wrong with people if they 'can't find a job' today?!

    Oh, BTW, we've had crazy people ever since the world has had people. Got any other nifty rationalizations...?
     
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    I think this is what will bring this issue to a head. "The homeless" are one thing when they are a vague faceless group to be pitied from afar, but it's something else altogether to have to be face-to-face with it. Nobody wants it "in their backyard", so the question of where to send them and what to do is going to become a bigger and bigger issue, I predict.

    Even the most bleeding hearted of the bleeding hearts don't want it in their backyard. As the homeless problem gets worse and bigger, and worse and bigger, it's becoming increasingly harder to ignore the harsh realities of it.

    Liberal areas, politics, and mentalities nurtured this, it will be interesting now to see what they do to try to solve it.

     
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    But they are NOT observing the laws. Public drunkenness, drug use, public urination and defecation (not to mention sanitary issues), and God only knows what else (trespassing, possibly?)
     
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    In Canada people without jobs can apply for welfare, which is basically a monthly cash deposit that people can spend whichever way they want, but they also get harassed to find a job. It's not much but it's enough to rent a room somewhere and buy food. The only way to remain homeless is to be so mentally ill that you're literally incapable of accepting the help you're given e.g. schizophrenia, psychosis. In the US you only give people a food card, and your public housing isn't sufficient. So what happens next is predictable. You pay for the dysfunctional people in your society one way or another, you've skipped the cash option and instead you're paying with your view, your sidewalks and human urine in the streets.
     
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    Well ya. OP seems to think they should be elsewhere.

    "Why can't the local governments do ANYTHING that reallyfocuses on getting these creatures out of their cities?"

    I was asking where that would be.

    As far as I've seen, the homeless are primarily on public property, where it is legal for them to be.
     
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    Respectfully, you realize that they'd most likely spend cash on drugs and alcohol? That's the reason for the "food cards" and housing assistance in the first place, it is to try and make them use the money in the way it was intended.

    Most poor people didn't become poor by accident, but from irresponsibility and bad choices. In other words, they would likely not be the best stewards of "money", which is why welfare is dispersed as it is instead.
     
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    OUT of cities. An absolute prerequisite for any kind of assistance should be residence in rural and remote areas.
     
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    haha .. yeah that's right, blame The System. personal responsibility is for grown ups.
     
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    50 acres and a mule?
     
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