How White Castle Will Adjust to a $15 Minimum Wage in New York

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Can the minimum wage law supporters please watch this youtube, then refute sowell's stance. Lets hear it?

 

Oh man, you never had one? (actually, one is too little to satisfy, you'll need about 10) You have to go to the Northeast and try them. The frozen ones are decent but far from being right off the grill.

Their goodness can't be overstated.

 

Imagine a person started out 5 years ago making $7.50 and hour and he worked his way up to $15 per hour and now someone comes in off the street and gets the same pay. Like I said earlier, raising the minimum wage just puts everyone else above it closer to the bottom.

 

Most people buy the cheap stuff which is always going to be unhealthy.

Poor people aren't going to pay for the pricier healthy stuff.

 

obesity is a pre existing condition, in free market capitalism medical insurance wouldn't be offered to these types who don't take personal responsibility for their eating habits.. maybe in the socialist western world where universal health care makes everyone pay for each other that is possible.

this all just goes to show how socialism attacks freedom, they force the capitalist to raise the minimum wage so the poor can having living wages, they force the taxpayer to provide health insurance, and on top of all of this the higher prices force people to give up their god given right of eating fattening unhealthy foods that lead to obesity.

 

This is just not true. We just had a minimum wage law forced down our throats in California. And the Unions were the largest supporter, so on the face, it seems that what you say is true. However, the Unions wanted the wage increase as a way to increase their membership totals, not as a way to increase their members wages.

 

If I recall correctly, the unions wanted certain industries to be exempt from the minimum wage and they got it. The reason why they did this was so they could organize those industries by promising to get the workers higher pay. I could be wrong, but I'm close.

 

Its not unhealthy foods, people in athletics on a high level spend more time forcing down calories than is given credit. Michael Phelps admitted to eating whatever he wanted including chocolate pancakes every morning. You have to work out and be healthy, blaming the food is a crutch for the weak

 

Maybe the government workers who are union. But SEIU has been driving the minimum wage issue to increase their membership. SEIU has requested an exemption from the minimum wage for some businesses where their union is already established, for example hotels that have a union staff would be exempt from the new minimum wage.

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You are dead on target. That's exactly what they are after. Except they are making "union shops" exempt. That way, the hope the non-union shops will be more friendly to becoming union as a way to reduce their labor cost.

Democrats and Unions are both scum.

 

Indeed. However, if the free market is working I'm coming in and providing the product much closer to production cost. And you are going out of business.

 

So you agree that workers shouldn't be making so little that they qualify for public assistance?

 

I don't think the government should determine an employee's value to a company.

 

We have programs that encourage people to move off public assistance by starting into the work place. The earned income tax credit, for instance, has helped particularly single mothers return to part-time work. It is absurd to think that people have to be either completely on or completely off public assistance. It is the same logic republicans use and it is part of the reason people get trapped into poverty. They cannot afford to leap off a financial cliff, so they cling to the safety of public assistance. Section 8 housing is another program that does help people transition into higher income brackets while keeping a roof over their head with income-contingent rents.

 

How is that, how does cost and prices not being connected directly lead to everything being free?

And my teacher would be the one laughing, hyena boy. He got most everybody on that with a multiple choice question. If you don't believe me, look it up? Go to any good reference and ask what determines prices. Hell, ask Siri. she'll agree with me.

Bottom line and let's cut the bull(*)(*)(*)(*), you want to go back to the good ol' days of the 19th century when there was no public assistance. You want businesses to be able to pay workers a dollar for their 12 hour days and then require them to shop at the company store where a cup of soup costs, you guessed it, a dollar. Sorry, John D., the time machine has been broken for a while now we can't go back to the wonderful paradise where employers could advertise for "runaway" workers like they would for runaway slaves. We're not going to see WalMart employees commuting from the store to their residences under the nearest bridge anytime soon, no matter how much you'd like that.

And that very fact seems to be a big part of what bothers conservatives, see below

See what I mean? It's not enough that I succeed, others must fail. I don't see why my taxes should pay for some conservatards Schadenfreude orgasm, I really don't. What you make is what you make and what someone else makes is none of your business.

Not necessarily, healthy food can be cheap and good, and it doesn't have to be hard to prepare either. However, the advertisers and worst of all, the TV based food police, are set foursquare against letting us even suspect that. This is the subject of a whole different thread, suffice it to say that neither Dr Oz NOR Man vs Food are telling you the truth about healthy, or even good, eating

Quite so, but if you've never had one before be SURE to get some really great weed, go driving around with some friends late at night and find one open between 3 and 4 am. If you don't you'll wonder what all the fuss was about

Yes and no. This may sound like an odd thing to say but it's true; you have to be in really good shape to work out that hard. Professional athletes build up over years to a level of activity that would make most people really, really ill.

That's nice. Now do you think the company should be able to pay him so little that he qualifies for public assistance? My opinion is that if he's not worth that much he should be in training which enables him to be worth more. I don't see that as a radical idea either, as we've done it by compulsorily educating children for about 200 years now.

 

Is there anything you people wont swallow?
The nationalreview??
Good lord.

 

Easily, it's Thomas Sowell.
The guy is a known nut job that only the far right bothers to listen to.
He's never been correct about anything, ever. Yet the clowns on the right love him because he says what they WANT to hear.

 

So long as other nations are raising their minimum wages, then we must raise ours or we'll likely fall behind.

 

In other words, you can't even put up a single cogent argument about anything he said?

 

Ok, should be pretty easy to refute his points then because, hes wrong right? So type it out bro. Im waiting.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason a person owns a business is to make money....correct? So your doing just fine taking home 100K a year when your overhead goes up 25% due to a pay increase to your workers. Are most business owners going to have the attitude that it's "all good" and only take home 75K a year? NO. They'll raise the cost of their goods so they can get back up to the 100K mark that they have grown accustom to. Will there be some that stay at the bottom for a bit to get a fresh batch of customers.....sure that only makes sense, but eventually the price of goods will increase to make up for that difference.

 

And is that a bad thing?

 

A high tide raises all ships.

 

Robots are coming for the high paid jobs where the cost of automation can be justified on a cost/ benefit analysis. Be a long time before robots take frozen patties, heat them on a grill add a few canned onions and then carry them to a window.

 

That analogy isn't accurate. If it raised all ships then relative to each other there would be nothing gained. It only raises the bottom ships temporarily until the other ships catch up and the we're right back where we started.