How White Castle Will Adjust to a $15 Minimum Wage in New York

Like I said the tech is here. It's the process that is going to change. The layout of restaurants will change to accommodate the new technology just as the tech will continue to adapt to meet workplace. Take a look at the video below and tell me again how long you think it will take.
[video=youtube_share;7-JR2KDRnEY]http://youtu.be/7-JR2KDRnEY[/video]

 

Actually there are fast food outlets that machines do the job of workers.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carls-jr-wants-open-automated-location-2016-3

 

http://newsexaminer.net/food/mcdonalds-to-open-restaurant-run-by-robots/

 

uumm.......no!?

I was responding to a person that indicated I have no understand of basic economics. Please read the post that I was quoting.

 

[video=youtube;bc-b6Ze0We0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc-b6Ze0We0[/video]

Still needs some refining, but not that far away.

 

Just completely ignore the point. Personal responsibility is the mantra of the goonish right on this form, right?

How about in harsh times, we ask -all- employees, including the corporate execs, to take some personal responsibility.

(*)(*)(*)(*) the haves. They have had for long enough.

 

A very long time!

 

Conservatives are a jealous people

 

Already explained that automating restaurants won't happen. First most good restaurants thrive on personal good service which is part of the ambiance. Second replacing low wage unskilled employees with robots is not going to be cost effective anytime soon. Robots will replace doctors, surgeons, machinests, etc way before minimum wage jobs.

Just because something can be done doesn't mean it will be done.

 

That is a silly example that was done at Horn and Hardart Automats forty years ago and was abandoned.

 

Sorry but a test project with no payback proves nothing about future trends. Thirty years ago I did a project desiging an automated factory that would have reduced employees from about 1500 to under 200. Wasn't done hecause the payback period was too long. Same will apply to automating fast food restaurants.

 

We can agree on this one, Cubed. Today's supermarkets offer so much more variety of food than they did 30 years ago it's amazing. Fresh, high-quality food is always preferable to templated, "pre-fab" food made with less-than-primo ingredients. But, even the the frozen food section of modern supermarkets is brimming with everything from meat-and-potatoes "hungry man" stuff that is MUCH better than it used to be, to Middle Eastern, Oriental, and other "ethnic" foods.

And nearly all of them are microwavable! AND, really good, high-powered microwave ovens are fast, easy to clean, and easy to operate. Plus, they're everywhere, including just about every workplace I know of. I never go to fast-food joints anymore. Why would anyone go to a fast-food joint anymore? To sit in filth and noise, surrounded by people that make you want to gag, paying higher and higher prices for sub-standard food? Oh, joy!

Next, all our brick-and-mortar stores are going to go "robot" and be almost totally self-service. The only people who will actually be making artificially high wages are relatives of the store's owners....

 

the ceo of WC gets an estimated 28.2 million a year in compensation, i am a little short on sympathy for the jerk.

 

I was responding to your post where you said prices would rise to compensate for paying a higher minimum wage. I don't think that is a bad way to provide a livable wage to minimum wage workers.

 

Yep. Can't trim fat from the robber baron scum, gotta show sympathy for the devil while he gives his employees the horns.

What a joke.

 

And we'd never be able to drive faster than 60 miles an hour or fly or go to the moon. No way a laser could ever fit in the palm of your hand or a computer on a desktop. In the next 5 years restaurants will start to automate. They already are getting customers used to the idea, go to Chillis you pay for your meal in a little kiosk on the table. You can reorder drinks from it. Deny it, ignore it but it isn't going to stop it. The tech is here, all they have to do now is design cost effective systems.

Run the numbers if a restaurant is open 7 days a week for 15 hours a day and pays two cooks $10 an hour. $300 a day just on salaries not to mention the business portion of taxes, workers comp, etc. $300 x 7= $2100 so $2100x 52=$109200. Let's multiply that by 3 and you get $327600. I bet someone out there is close to bring a machine that will do most of the cooking for less than that. I can get you CNC machines that do all kinds of cool (*)(*)(*)(*) for $250,000.

But we're not finished. Considering restaurant have to buy equipment anyway, the expense of the new machines that cook and prepare the food will be more attractive because they restaurant won't have to purchase some of the equipment they do now, like stoves.

It's not going to start with existing restaurants, at first it will only be new facilities but it won't take long before every McDonald's in America has a robot cook and a kiosk order taker.

 

Perhaps what I am recollecting is related to the UAW or the AFL/CIO. I have no reason to dispute you, but I am certain that I learned this to be true in some instances, at least in the recent past. Thanks for the input and the correction!

Regards,

 

See, this is where you mess up. It's not about making min wage workers other than the lowest paid (that's the state of affairs by definition), it's about allowing the min wage workers to actually afford to survive. A min wage doesn't need to change a worker's relative position on the pay scale, it just needs to get them off welfare.

 

When I worked in the central office of Pacific Bell, never, no way, could I have predicted the smart phone. I would never predict the day of the tiny phone in the pocket capable of being used such that traffic laws were passed.

I see the day the customer no longer tells a human his order. That the machine accepts the order. The machine inside the store selects what to cook and puts the finished item on the line. The line operates similar to an ATM. Place the order, push a button and pay and then the door opens to your product.

As to payback, wages is a huge part of expenses. And the study is by today's standards, ancient.

 

What you seek, it seems to this person, is the government more and more in charge of our lives.

And to make it work, it seems as if the employer becomes the enemy of the worker.

I believe companies thinking that way can't attract workers.

Our minimum wage in my area has long been far below what I always paid my wage earners. Even for the simple telephone clerk, the one taking orders, got paid a large factor above the minimum wage. In fact, but for the much higher pay, I never would have hired any person.

 

I would say the first part of taking personal responsibility is having a skill someone will pay you more than minimum wage for. When you hire someone to mow your lawn do you pay more than you think it's worth?

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And how many jobs has he created? How much does he pay in taxes?

 

Notice how you did not provide any links to prove compensation. Stocks that are taxable to the CEO often are called compensation. But this is not the same as cash. Stocks vary in price for one thing. Not saying he is not paid well, but give us a break. When you make a claim, at least don't expect us to prove it for you.

 

Instead of bashing those who make a lot of income, why not find their system and use it for your own gain?

 

The only reason any employees have jobs is to help the employer/business owner make more money. When the employee becomes a cost that exceeds his value in the production of the good or service that makes an incremental return for the employer, the need for the employee will no longer be there.

If I am a skilled carpenter, my personal income may be OK, but in order to have a better life, better income I need to hire a helper to be more productive. The helper's pay cannot be more than the value of the increased level of productivity that I can achieve by having the employee and getting more income for myself. I can be successful, expand, train more employees, hire more helpers so that I personally can make much higher income by doing so.

I can survive and do OK by myself. I only want employees so I can make more money. I only want to hire a large number of employees so I can make a large income. If hiring employees is made so costly by government requirements, I will not hire employees, I will not expand.

For the life of me I don't understand why leftists don't understand these simple concepts of business.

 

Just focus on the little guy. Can't even admit that CEO pay is absurd, let alone CEO pay that blossoms during tough times and with layoffs.