I believe we now have conclusive proof that Trump caused 1/6

“HERE’s an AGGRESSIVE STRATEGY: Why can t [sic] the states of GA NC PENN and other R controlled state houses declare this is BS (where conflicts and election not called that night) and just send their own electors to vote and have it go to the SCOTUS,” the lawmaker wrote, according to texts the House Jan. 6 select committee released on Tuesday.​

Treason.

Don Jr., Trump’s eldest son, had also texted Meadows that day saying that his father has “got to condemn this **** asap.” “It has gone too far and gotten out of hand,” he wrote.​

A modicum of sense and decency from Trump Jr. Shame it didn't last.

 

Trump talks like a mobster. Hey, let's go tell them Congressmen what we think, right boys?!

 

I think two or three at Fox News told him the same thing. Along with some Senators or Congressmen. I know Trump a lot of times says stupid things and I would guess those you think should testify would repeat some of those stupid things he said but never went through with. I don't think they want to do that.

 

Disagree

 

No, I don't think the attack on the Capital was part of Trump's plan. Delaying the transfer of power till investigations were held for voter fraud was. He believed if his VP didn't sign, it wouldn't be official and he would be able to get a thorough investigation going. Yes, he, the Pillow Guy and I'm sure several others were convinced by the video (Absolute Proof) that voter fraud had happened and it was massive. They were sure that Trump was being cheated out of the victory and wanted time to prove it.

Let me add, he also thought the big crowd would put pressure on Congress to go along with it

 

No from people they saw as destroying democracy.

 

Been good knowing you but probably my last day on PF. Thin skinned folks.

 

If I may join in. Are you saying the violent attack on the Capitol was justified?

 

Nope I am stating what many believed.
I do not think that justifies a riot in fact the riot, whether spontaneous or the result of provocation and instigators, in the pay of the intelligence apparatus, was unequivocally the worst idea ever.

 

I hope that's not true Hoosier, you have been a main stay here for many years.

 

Been here 9 years but rules are rules. Think it’s the end here for me based on that but thanks.

 

Either he underestimated how much it could hurt him until others convinced him it could during that 3-hour period, or he felt a lot of gratitude towards his supporters going to battle for him, and it fed his ego and didn't want it to stop even though there were serious concerns in the more rational part of his mind.

 

It wasn't a 3 hour period. More like he first told them about a hour and 20 min after his speech when he told them to mind the Capitol police, they were the good guys and on our side. That seems to be completely ignored by the Left. It was the second one they are quoting. As a matter of fact, is was the third. He told them in his speech to go peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol. I do think his ego was fed with so many showing up ready to go to the Capitol and protest. I do think he under estimated how much it could hurt him, or he would have said those things much quicker.

 

Easy. President Trump greets the crowd: Go home. Biden won.

 

Not actually, but anyone an jump in

That communication is to you. Anyone can jump in.

 

That is not the point. The point is why did they text Meadows?

Because they believed he could stop it with his words.

Why did they believe he could stop it with his words?

Because they saw him start it with his words.

And guess what, he stopped it........

With his words. 187 minutes later.

 

That is not the point. The point is why did they text Meadows?

Because they believed he could stop it with his words.

Why did they believe he could stop it with his words?

Because they saw him start it with his words.

And guess what, he stopped it........

With his words. 187 minutes later.

 

Tweets were impotent, no one was watching screens while they were bashing heads, busting windows and breaking down doors.

187 minutes later, he did a video, and that got around and they did stop

 

You make claims like that, provide evidence.

I was just looking at an aspect. Of course there are many dynamics, the entire point of the investigation.

 

But he told them three times to go peacefully, or go home. All the bias news are reporting is he didn't say anything till over three hours later. Why didn't they tell it all? Why only mention it once and make it sound like he waited for hours and said nothing? That's the problem with the bias news. They only tell you half the story, the half they want you to hear. They do it continually. The average Democrat has no idea of all the good things Trump did. They held all that news from them. Most Democrats can tell you nothing good Trump did.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2402122609884100

 

Congratulations, more strawman arguments in one comment that I've seen in quite a while.

 

Pressure from siblings, staff, congresspersons, senators who told him that if he didn't stop it, his legacy would be crap.

That plus the realization his plan failed.

Thats' why.

 

And they don't tell you where Trump went after his speech? We know he didn't follow them down like he said he would. How long it took him to get where he was going? Who he talked to and when did he got word of all the trouble taken place? How long did it take to make the video to make his last remarks?

 

There used to be something of an organization started by four or five persons, but it's pretty much a decentralized movement, and so, there are no real BLM leaders anymore as it is, like antifa, an amorphous movement that is reactionary.

That vast majority of BLMers are not into rioting, those are opportunists who go to protests and amp things to break into stores, start fires, create havoc,

 

I have a lot of questions on what and why it happened and why the bias news only reports on what they want you to hear. I admitted that Trump's words riled up some in the crowd to break into the Capitol. I have tried to look at both sides, not just one. I have been more honest than the bias news ever has.