I Don't Think I Can Defend a Trump Presidency

Facts not strong enough to counter your bias?

 

That's fine, but at least I'm not culpable in maintaining the system we currently have. You guys can keep being hypocrites who engage in this little game every four years and telling yourselves that you are only doing what you have to do to beat the other side, but you aren't fooling those of us who have even a shred of self-awareness.

Make no mistake, you are culpable. All of the complaints you have are your own fault. You vote for these people every four years, put them into power, and allow business to run as usual. By voting for these people, you have no right to complain when they do something wrong, because they are doing it with your consent.

You don't get to say "he wasn't really a conservative" when the whole thing blows up in your face, because neither are you. You are a fan of a team, nothing more. Your entire political existence is essentially defined in terms of what "the other" opposes.

If my posts never have a single effect on another person, it will still be worth not having to live as a hypocrite.

No, I don't want tons of immigration, and you know that, but I don't think Trump will really do much about it. Moreover, what other problems are going to come about because of his impulsive personality? He could easily offset any good policies with a blatant act of stupidity--just look at how he has managed his campaign! The man is barely self-aware.

 

No, I'm fully aware of the media's support for Hillary, but that doesn't mean that nothing said about him his true. He is impulsive and shows a strong lack of self-awareness.

 

I can't defend either major party candidate. I think no matter which one finally wins they will be bad for the presidency and for this country. Personally, I don't care which one it is. Either one will be a very rotten apple. In a sane world or one that has a bit of common sense, one would discard the bad apples and get a good fresh one or two from the tree.

The fact that our two major parties gave us two bad applies, for me that make them a non or no option. We have one apple that shows his worms and rotten pus while the another apple that hides her worms and pus to the best of her ability. But is just as rotten to the core as the other apple. For all great nations, their down fall was caused by rotting from within. This nation is no different. It does make me believe this nation is in its last days with choices such as these rotten apples.

 

You mean he doesn't act like a career politician.

 

Why are all your posts puerile?

 

I believe this is at the heart of the folks on the fence. They are only used to politicians yet they want change. It is understandable they get scared with someone that is different yet they want change at the same time.

 

I am not culpable at all. I did not vote for obama. The first time I did not vote for him because he had only been a one term senator and a community organizer. How could he run the country without executive experience?

The second time I did not vote for him because he proved his lack of experience was a downfall. So no, I am not culpable.

As far as Trump and immigration, it does not matter if he can do anything about it. Electing Trump will show what the people want and that the people can win.

If Hillary wins it just shows that there are too many naive people voting. And I will not be culpable for that. I believe she will be a disaster and people will suffer because of it. I always look at things and hedge myself against what is to come. I have been successful at that so far. I have plans if the liberal progressive disaster plays out. I will be ok and I will not feel bad about people suffering because I did the right thing. Just like my signature says "Told ya!".

 

Hillary has proven she couldn't handle Secretary of State. I'll go with Trump.

 

Agreed.

I just can't do it. One of these days, something has to give.

That isn't the problem. I'm fine with the lack of PC, but I'm not fine with what I perceive to be poor self-control.

I also didn't vote for Obama, but I didn't vote for McCain or Romney, either.

You've voted straight-ticket Republican in most elections, right?

Go for it.

Maybe it will work and I'll wish I had jumped on the train, but I'm not pulling the trigger right now. Either way, Texas is secure from Hillary, so a few pissed off people like myself aren't going to make a difference.

 

The facts are that Donald Trump bragged that he does the kind of thing those women accuse him of doing to them.


I have no idea of what is going on in the minds of people like you...but it is not a good thing.

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I think he means that Trump does not act like an adult, responsible human being!

 

OP you just laid out a major part of the problem people see with Trump supporter's. Just because they cannot stand Hillary, they have given Trump attributes, talents, morals, attitudes and goals that he simply does not possess. I have never been a Hillary supporter, but it is a no brainer to understand that the country will in fact survive another Clinton presidency, but cannot afford a president that is as clearly ill-equipped, uninformed, immature, unstable, irrational and completely self-indulgent as Trump. There is even that issue of Hillary being labeled by the right as the biggest liar in human history, which is really bizarre because Trump wins hands down in that category, but his supporters do not care. Trump just did this for the publicity anyway so no one will be more relieved to get on with his next con job than he is, although...I will be thrilled when his presence is not a 24/7 thing anymore. Ick!

 

When are you going to come to grips that your candidate is finished and stop putting your head in the sand?

 

They don't care that Clinton is corupt. Most leftist are just as corrupt and deceitful as the establishment they worship. They have a "public" possision and a "private" possision. They are willing to say/do anything and justify any action that benifits them.

 

Therein lies your problem, you think career polititions act like adults which would mean seeing prostitutes, drinking, lying, etc.. so what's your problem with Trump? After Bill Clinton you would think Trump is your man.

 

Okay first some of the nationalist movements sweeping the globe are objectively awful. 2nd the only damage Trump can do to the nationalist movement is if everyone else is right about them. Is there likely to be a recession in the near future? almost certainly. There literally always is. The question isn't whether or not you have one the question is can you avoid turning it into a decades long depression. Or the god awful not quite a recession but not really a recovery either that we are experiencing at the moment? Since it is fairly easy to avoid both of these by simply doing the opposite of what the progressives advise, a quarter or two of recession followed by three or four years of robust economic growth should be more than sufficient to prove competence and restore confidence. in sound economic philosophy.

 

Nope. I am an independent and look at the issues. I can vote for a democrat that is sensible. If Jim Webb had gotten the nomination I would definitely considered him.

So you jump to conclusions about my voting just as you jump to conclusions about Trump. You have to turn off the noise coming from the left and actually look at the issues.

 

It's an article by Journalist, Liz Crokin. I posted it for perspective, to show that there is more to the man Donald Trump than the cherry picked, out of context, audio loops, that the liberal main stream media and liberal cable news is hammering us with 24/7.

 

It seems some folks are just concerned with image. They do not really care if the candidate actually has what it takes they just want to FEEL all warm and toasty inside about them. They do not care if Mr Rogers is a serial killer as long as he keeps wearing the sweater.

 

I never discussed the presidential elections on this site.

Are you trolling, because I find it difficult you could actually read otherwise.

 

How delusional. Trump has proven he can manage a large company. Hillary has proven she does nothing but screw up. Yes, she is a proven liar but she lies about things that actually matter.

 

You've placed yourself into the discussion with inquiries about my post in this discussion, so the question still stands, or are you just a creepy Internet stalker?

 

I'm looking to 2020 or 2024.

The GOP as it has been is dead, which is a good thing, and the GOP in the year 2020 should look a lot different.

An anti-globalist, pro working-class party, with the right messenger, can beat Hillary in 2020.

If we have a major recession in the next few years, which I fully expect, then we can get control over the moneyed elites within the party and create a winning platform that can compete with the dems. The Republicans of old just never wrapped their heads around the idea that a platform solely obsessed with low taxes and Jesus can't win elections anymore, as it shouldn't.

A recession under Trump would destroy nationalism in this country, but a recession under Hillary can open a real pathway for us.

Hillary is just as disgusting to the right as Trump is to the left. I will be sickened when she is sworn in and mourn our loss, but I will not vote for Trump for that reason alone. Again, I still think he is right about a lot of things, but his personality leaves dangerous question marks.

Ultimately, I firmly believe that liberalism is bad for the country and will continue leading us down a very bad path, but I can see a longer game here and a different path to victory for nationalists like myself.

 

I asked why your posts are vacuous.

Do you understand that has nothing to do with my opinion on the presidential election?

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I asked why your posts are vacuous.

Do you understand that has nothing to do with my opinion on the presidential election?

 

While Hillary appoints liberal SCOTUS judges and gives amnesty to millions of new democrats. The republicans will never get elected again . This is it.