If women are capable of serving in combat roles, then why aren't they part of the draft?

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    Following the Tucker Carlson controversy, I've been hearing a lot about how women make the military a more powerful and deadly fighting force. But if women are capable of serving in combat roles, then why aren't they part of the draft?
     
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    Likely because women only want to be equal when they want to. But only when they want to. And one of the things that isn't being discussed here is the effect on readiness pregnant women cause for their units when they can't deploy or aren't mission ready when they are pregnant, and the slot they hold goes empty when the unit has to deploy and they stay home because they are pregnant. Or, worse, they get pregnant while there are deployed and must be sent home and their job they were supposed to do gets loaded on others.
     
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    No matter how you try to frame it, putting women on a battlefield comes at an added cost. They require different equipment and uniforms and additional medical personnel all of which comes at a cost. This factor is especially compounded by the possibility of pregnancy and that the women serving are generally at a prime child bearing age.

    This is not denigrating the service which women have provided and will provide. It is simply a fact.
     
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    I heard there was a little trouble over at the talkingpointsmemo this morning and the new progressive talking points haven't been released yet.....
     
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    The last draft was in 1972. The first women were enrolled in ROTC in the same year. If we have a draft again, it may be very different. But I suspect you won't be overly supportive of ALL women be eligible for the draft if it occurred again.
     
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    Politics and irrational human emotions I expect.

    If the idea of a draft were being created afresh today, it would certainly be for men and women, though it'd almost certainly be different in a range of different ways. There could be a concern that raising anything about significant changes to the draft could trigger questions about how relevant it is today at all and rather than it being extended to women, could see a push for it to be eliminated entirely or at least massively (and expensively) changed. Also, regardless of the simple equal rights (and responsibilities) logic, no politician is going to want to be the one who pushed for women to be included because it would inevitably trigger a lot of negative pushback due to that irrational human emotion, both from women who don't want to be drafted and people who don't want women in the armed forces.

    In the position of politicians and senior military leaders, raising the issue won't appear to be worth the hassle. In the position of people working for equal rights, the draft isn't going to be very high in the list priorities, based on it's limited practical impact and the fact they'd struggle to get it changed due to the aforementioned political resistance.
     
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    If women are capable of serving in combat roles, then why aren't they part of the draft?

    We have no draft.
     
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    What draft?
     
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    Okay, then why aren't they forced to register for the selective service, otherwise be disqualified for numerous benefits and denied various types of employment?
     
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    Probably because they have no appropriate role in combat.
     
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    American women have been fighting in our wars forever, Harriet Tubman was a decorated war hero.
     
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    She was a scout, not an infantryman.
     
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    I oppose mandatory service on foreign soil. I don't have a problem with drafting folks to defend the US on US soil. But either way, if men are subject to it and women are not, then men and women are not equal under the law. Then again, if gender is merely a 'social construct', its becomes a very simple thing to dodge the draft... "I'm a woman now..."
     
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    What does this have to do with the draft?
     
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    Military draft.
     
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    Apparently they do. Women are allowed in combat roles.
     
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    The Selective Service System?
     
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    Men are required to register for the draft. Women are not.
     
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    What military draft? I’m not aware of anyone being drafted into the military.
     
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    There is no draft.
     

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