In nearly every swing state at this point, Biden is outperforming Obama and Clinton

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  1. MrTLegal

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    Not only does @gfm7175 fail to prove that "declare or justify a variance" is a rule for statistics, he then makes statements that are both total unverified bullshit and completely irrelevant to polling data.
     
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    Have you asked him for a citation/ link?
    Numerous people in different threads have.
    The quotes below are typical of his response to those requests.

    gfm7175:
    "I do not make use of links. Links are (largely) intellectual laziness. I instead make use of philosophy. I form my own arguments and then explain the reasoning behind them."

    gfm7175:
    "I don't use links because I refuse to toss logic andphilosophy out the window. I wish to remain rational."
     
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    I forgot to mention,he's also a conspiracy theorist.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/face-mask-tyranny-is-here-—-egged-on-by-lawless-politicians.576419/page-2
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    gfm7175: "There is no "crisis"; there is no "pandemic"... This is all a political hoax to bring about the Agenda 2030 of the UN and a one-world government system..."
     
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    RCP Polling Average Puts Biden Over Trump +6.4%
    The Only Problem Is... At This Point, Hillary Clinton Was Up Over Trump +7.4%


    Ohhh.
     
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    How many days, in 2016, did Hillary have an RCP average above 50%?
     
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    More days than fewer days.
     
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    Is that a decent answer?
     
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    Yes. :)
     
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    WTF? You want to know something, look it up! These anti-Trumpers are always asking other folks to do for them what they are perfectly capable of doing themselves.

    It's Bidenesque

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    I don't ask you questions because I want to know the answer. I ask you questions because I want you to prove that you know the answer.
     
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    I am perfectly comfortable with Biden who, "In 2007, was given a 0% score by the (pro-life) National Right to Life Committee and a 75% score by the NARAL Pro-Choice America. “I accept church rule personally, but not in public life,” he said in October 2012. On 25 April 2019, the anti-abortion Life Site News website announced Biden’s candidacy this way: “Pro-abortion Joe Biden announces entry into 2020 presidential race.”

    The fact that you have to dig back to a quote from 1974 in order to come up with an attack line that you think will work just goes to show your desperation.

    As for the answer to my question - that you don't seem capable of answering - Hillary Clinton polled above 50%, at the RCP average, a grand total of four days in 2016. The latest that happened was March 29th.

    Joe Biden has polled at, or above, 50% on the RCP average more than forty days. The most recent time it happened was July 29th.
     
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    Correct. A citation/link is not a proof. When used as one, it is both a false source and an invalid proof. When requested as a "proof", it is also an unnecessary requirement. Those are all logical fallacies.
     
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    This is another logical fallacy (dismissal as a "conspiracy theory" is a specific form of Appeal to Popularity)
     
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    I just ran into a shopper today at the local independently owned/operated grocery store that I've been shopping at lately who, like me, was not wearing a mask (despite King Evers ordering all WI residents to wear them indoors in public). He approached me and we started talking for a good five plus minutes about how stupid this mask mandate is, how much Trump has accomplished, Biden's dementia, how the coronahoax is just fear mongering and lies in an election year, how excited we are to vote for Trump in November (in person, not through mail), how great of a job Kayleigh McEnany is doing (and how good looking she is), how many Trump signs we've seen outside of uber liberal Dane County, among other similar political discussion.

    I also went to a small cheese store before then, and wasn't wearing my mask yet again, but it was refreshing to get inside and see that basically nobody else was wearing a mask either (even the lady working there).

    But yup... Biden is "up by 6+ points in Wisconsin" hahahahahahahahaha
     
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    Citations can provide support when someone actually debates evidence; which you did not in the science forum.
    Bowing out there was a good move, it saved you any further embarrassment.
     
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    I don't find bogus claims or crackpottery to be appealing.
     
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    @gfm7175 is bragging about not wearing a mask - in violation of the State order - while in a State that has the 4th highest infections per capita of the country.

    The sheer amount of self-congratulatory hubris does make sense though given his history of being unwilling and unable to ever review or provide citations to anyone except himself.
     
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    Citations are not "holy" in any way... They don't elevate the status of an argument in any way. You continue to deny logic...

    I never "bowed out"... no idea what you are talking about...
     
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    You don't find logic to be appealing either, as you continue to outright deny it...
     
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    Correct. There is no need to wear one; masks "stop/prevent the spread of" viruses like spaghetti strainers stop/prevent the spread of water...

    Yup. There are plenty of Wisconsinites who think that this unconstitutional order is complete bogus and are simply not abiding by it. According to our State Constitution, our Republican controlled legislature could convene to revoke King Evers' mandate, but the assembly leader doesn't seem interested in doing that (probably for political reasons). Yet, plenty of county sheriffs in Wisconsin have come out and said that they will not be enforcing the policy and to not bother them with complaints about non-compliance. I only abide by it at work in order to keep my job, but other than that I do not wear one anywhere I go... However, I AM now quite tempted to wear a disposable mask around my wrist as a "shackle", just to make the point about the actual intent behind the policy.

    The infection numbers are bogus and are fear mongering. Even going by those numbers, an extremely small fraction of the State populace is not even a "situation"... There are hardly any deaths... this is behaving quite similar to other flus... I'm not going to fear monger over a flu...

    Citations are not proofs. You, like Cosmo, continue to outright deny logic.
     
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    Denial is a hallmark of science illiterates.
     
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    Conspiracy theorists prefer to make up something out of thin air, rather than question what they see as facts.
    I don't see that as being logical.
     
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    Projection is a hallmark of logic illiterates.
     
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    There is nothing illogical about a theory, in and of itself.

    You still have no clue what a fact is...

    There is nothing illogical about a theory, in and of itself. Committing a form of the appeal to popularity fallacy (as you were doing before) is not logical, however...
     
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    Indeed, it's one of your personality traits.
     

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