Invasive Ultrasounds For Women - How About Rectal Exams For Men?

You play the martyr card too much. It's almost like you need to feel that there is some kind of personal war against you just because you're female. I feel bad for you. All pro-lifers want to do is save innocent lives from being senselessly killed, and some of you guys think it's all about you. Try being responsible with your sexual habits and see how many people give a crap what you do with your body. If anybody says anything to you at all, I will be very surprised. But you guys never take me up on this when I propose this idea to you. I always challenge you all to go out and do something else to your bodies, and you never do it. Get a tattoo, get a piercing, shave your head, get breast implants, get a breast reduction, get a hysterectomy, get liposuction, get collagen lip injections, get botox, get a sex change, grow your leg hair out, get your teeth pulled and replaced with diamonds like Kanye West, or hell, if you're feeling really adventurous, even go all out like this guy.....



I just want to see one of you guys that thinks people want to "control your bodies" choose just one thing off that list (or make up one of your own) and try it out for yourself to see just how many people actually care what you do to your own body when it has nothing to do with another life inside of you. I think you'll be surprised to learn that nobody actually cares. Because it's not about you. It's about the other person inside of you that we want to save.


Oh, and quit posting porno. Your picture has vaginas and rectums in it.

 

Well lets see now, I have my ears pierced, been accused of being gay for that. i have a number of tattoos, been accused of being a lout for those.

You say you want to save the life of the fetus .. but that only extends to when its still inside the woman, once its born you really don't care what happens to it ... tell you what you want it to be born, then you have to keep an eye on it until it reaches adulthood, that would show you really care about its life.

But you do give a crap, how many posts have you personally put up here against homosexuals .. the majority of them are very responsible of their sexual habits, but they still get the god-squad proclaiming how evil they are. you want them to hide away and never be allowed to be themsleves in public.

PS. Those pictures are not porn ..

 

That might be believable if pro-lifers would support policies actually proven to reduce abortion--comprehensive sex education and affordable contraception. Pro-lifers are even against emergency contraception which studies have shown actually decreases the need for abortion, so why are they against it?

Women's sexual habits are none of your concern. The attempt to control women's sexual behavior and the attempt to control their bodies are pretty much the same thing.

 

No. This is madness. Sending someone else the bill for another's mistakes. This is wrong on so many levels it is ridiculous. When a person engages in adult behaviors the obligate themselves to adult responsibilities. Want to have sex? Fine - I may disagree on the terms and conditions but you are free to do so. But you must accept the responsibilities of sexual behavior - one of those being the possibility of taking care of your children or many years. This applies to both men and women, although sadly, women bear the brunt of this. There are a lot of males out there, but few men. Alternatively, there are a lot of females, but few women as well. If you make the bad choice of getting humped by a male you run risks. It isn't a mystery what can happen.

Mostly off topic. But I can't say I would particularly miss the homosexual crowd at all. A "Gay Island" makes the most sense to me.

 

My problem with the pro-life stance is that it is very selective, when it doesn't affect their wallet (ie in the womb) they fight for the rights of the unborn, however once they think it might remove a few dollars then its a case of "not interested", its not my responsibility.
We all pay for others mistakes in one way or another, being part of society is partly about shouldering the mistakes of that society whether they are our own personal fault or not.

This is what I mean, Unifier stated that no body would be bothered what people did to their own bodies .. but that is plainly un-true.

 

Dude, if your home is wiped out during a mudslide, I'll help you out. Home broken into? I'll help you out. Car smashed? I'd give you a ride to work when practical. Communities throw benefit auctions for things like this all the time.

Helping some idiot girl pay for her own kid because she behaved recklessly? Well, I am willing to employ her if she proves valuable enough, might even baby sit while she works a shift every now and then, help her put her life in order. Among other things. This is called charity - I believe strongly in it. Having been the recipient of it many times.

When this same idiot girls demands that I pay for something I consider to be most reprehensible, and (*)(*)(*)(*) and moan because I disagree with it. She will not get my charity, she will not get a lick of help from me. She is more likely to get a boot in her face if she causes me problems. It is all about the attitude. The sense of entitlement to my wallet to do that which I perceive to be very wrong is just backwards. And then tell me I'm wrong when she screwed up, warrants stern correction.

Personally I believe that people who do the whole piercing and tatoos to the excess are looking for attention, and when they get it they aren't always pleased with it. Doesn't make it right, but if you look like a circus, people will probably treat you like one. The profile lines up more often than not. Don't want to be treated like a profile? Don't behave like it, don't look like it. Easy as pie.

Until we all read minds, physical differences will always be divisive.

 

How utterly stupid could someone be to make a mistake (buy a car that's a lemon and NEVER ever get rid of it, marry the wrong person and never get a divorce, invest in the wrong company but never move their money elsewhere, buy the wrong size shoes but wear them forever no matter how uncomfortable they are) and think they should suffer with that mistake forever...that's the sign of a seriously deranged person....smart people fix their mistakes....like when a woman has an unwanted pregancy she has an abortion....only total idiots think that "taking responibility" mean suffering forever with a mistake...how stupid....

 

Let's go back to that fun and real topic....forced rectal exams for men before they get their Viagra....

 

Murder is a legal term referring to the unlawful killing of a person. Abortion is not illegal so it is not murder.

 

Oh, I'm sorry. Perhaps I should have instead used the term genocide.

Funny how it's only murder if the woman wants to keep her baby.

 

Now you call "keeping a baby" murder....?????

Aren't you confused...


And the topic has nothing to do with what you want to call anything!

the TOPIC isn't abortion......


Men MUST prove that they really have an "erectile dysfunction" before being given Viagra...afterall they might be getting Viagra for a reason some people wouldn't approve of...some people might think that's immoral...so men should be forced into any and all examinations, and be forced to look at the results and have counseling giving them alternatives like NOT having sex because you're old and had enough sex or they're not married, or he's too young for Viagra, ...or if they have sex they will produce a baby then the poor little man will have to actually support it or go on Welfare....YUP, men should be subject to complete analysis and public disclosure of their personal medical history...

Oh, and how about a public list of all those men who can't get it up??YES! Let's PUNISH them for having sex or haha wanting to have sex!

I don't know what's wrong with that, it's what Anti-Choicers want for women...

 

Emergency contraception doesn't kill an embryo. It delays ovulation. EC does not affect a pregnancy.

There is no burden on the taxpayer for abortion. The Hyde Amendment prevents any federal money being spent on abortion except for medicaid recipients who are victims of rape, incest, or threats to their lives. So there you go...no taxpayer money in the equation.

 

But, but, bbb, that's the TRUTH! They will never acknowledge that !...they only run...and hide from it...ignore it .


And remember some of them don't even want raped women to get abortions, or 11 year olds who were raped by 'daddy"....they still believe even those females should be punished!

 

Nope, wrong again. Genocide refers to an organised programme designed to kill off a group or RACE of people. Unless you are asserting that foetuses constitue a race separate from other humans then you are wrong. We all know you don't like abortion so just use ordinary words.

 

Well, maybe some folks did give a little thought to how'd they feel about being forced, by Big Government, into an invasive, unecessary medical procedure ....Thanks to you and Senator Howell .

 

One of the responsibilities of having sex is dealing with any resulting pregnancy in the best way for all concerned. Aborting is a responsible decision, especially if one cannot or will not care for a child. Adopting out is NOT responsible, IMO - nor is birthing a child one cannot or will not care for.

Which makes you a bigot. Why are so many anti choicers bigots?

 

Well, maybe some folks [B]didn't[/B] give any thought to how'd they feel about being forced, by Big Government, into an invasive, unecessary medical procedure ....

 

Abortion is neither murder or genocide.

 

Shari Richard, who operated an ultrasound machine at an abortion clinic, explained, "In fact many women will come to me considering abortion, and I have been personally told that I am to turn the monitor away from her view so that seeing her baby jump around on the screen does not influence her choice."

Abortionist Dr. Dorfman wrote in an article that appeated in OB GYN News (February 1986), "Seeing a blown-up, moving image of the embryo she is carrying can be distressing to a woman about to undergo an abortion. The [sonogram] screen should be turned away from her."

 

Yet again the question has to be asked .. so what?

 

If human life is of such trivial importance, why not just force pregnant women to carry to term? Just to be on the ethical safe side.
After all, if human life is worth as little as you seem to think it is, how much less a few months of convenience for the woman must be worth!

 

It only takes a few minutes to get that forced rectal exam to get that pathetic dose of Viagra . That's not inconvenient.

 

The clue to the answer to this is the highlighted word, wonder if you can guess why

 

But it's trivial, correct? By your own argument, it's not a big deal. You're contradicting yourself.