Is Anyone Happy with TrumpCare?

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  1. william kurps

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    So did Obama care save you money?
     
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    Trump is a criminal now?

    Why isn't he in jail?
     
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    Did a 12 year old let it slip
     
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    I had assumed that, rather than number yourself among Trump's neo-nazis and other white supremacists that hail him as their "God Emperor!" and "Glorious Leader!" that you'd prefer to be in that other basket Clinton identified:

    "... that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."
    In any event, if you are thrilled by the US paying twice as much for healthcare as advanced nations, and having the expenses of millions more uninsured dumped on the taxpayer, you should be very happy with TrumpCare.
     
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    The patient should pay for it. Nobody else.
     
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    This is all about you hating me for me refusing to pay for your personal problems in life, not going to happen
     
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    The price of medical care is the single biggest factor behind U.S. healthcare costs, accounting for 90% of spending. These expenditures reflect the cost of caring for those with chronic or long-term medical conditions, an aging population and the increased cost of new medicines, procedures and technologies. What part of that do you propose we decrease to save money?
     
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    Of course not to them! I'm asking if you contribute to honest healthcare providers who made every effort to save the life of somebody who died and, it turns out, was not insured... and there is no way to get back the cost. Do you contribute to cover that cost? I do! Because the same could happen to me and I don't want to be seen as a freeloader (well... and other reasons). So the question is, do you contribute?
     
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    It's old people, they made poor choices in life, dont expect us to pay for it
     
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    How could you be a freeloader for purchasing medical care?
     
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    The real question is why should I pay for you?

    Pay for it yourself .
     
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    Why would these health care providers not get payment before they expend their labor?
     
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    I apologize for our healthy life style which resulted in my wife and me living longer. As a proud veteran, I should have done my duty and committed suicide when I reached age seventy.
     
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    Not talking about people like you and your wife, talking about a clown who wants to force over money.
     
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    Here are a few of the quotes where you make the claim.
    Moving on

    You failed to read the source. It explains in detail your error of mixing up estates with survivors or heirs. You quoting only a few lines does not negate the rest of the article. I’ve included pertinent parts below that you ignore or don’t understand.

    From my source.
    “The executor will use his cash and liquidate assets, if necessary, to pay off all bills and creditors.”

    “Medical bills take precedence in some states if they were incurred within a certain period of time before the decedent's date of death, usually 60 days. The personal representative would have to pay these and other "priority" debts first, and creditors such as credit card lenders would then proportionately share in any money that's left over.”

    I believe around 30 states have law that mandates medical bills have first lien on estate assets.

    I’m having enough trouble getting you to understand the difference between an heir and an estate. You are on your own with fascism. But as long as you promote authoritarian actions, I will refer to you as an authoritarian. If the mods have a problem with it they can let me know.
     
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    Cash before service. Problem solved.
     
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    Obama promised something terrific, and also promised that our families could keep our doctors. That was clearly a bold face lie.

    Has Trump fixed that though? No. So your guy, and our current guy, were both wrong.
     
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    Oh no no no... God no!... I like you a lot. I already told you. You make my job easier. I even asked you to stick around.

    What I'm asking is who pays for those who refuse to pay. I help. Do you?
     
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    Aren't politicians the best?
     
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    Thank you! Luckily she smokes a magic green plant that helps 100X more than pain pills
     
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    I would fire everyone in washington and start over if I had a magic button to do so. Max salary would be 65K with tenure.
     
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    Nobody. Nobody should pay for those who refuse to pay. Why would they?
     
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    I am eating a pizza, so you still after other people's money for an unhealthy lifestyle?

    Pay for it yourself.
     
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    I am blown away by people who try to force people to pay for their own mistakes.
     
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    It's all about the lust to dominate one's fellow man. These sort of people just can't leave their neighbor alone.
     
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