Is Black Crime In America An Epidemic?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Zook, Jul 2, 2011.

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Is Black Crime In America An Epidemic?

  1. Yes, something constructive needs to be done about black crime

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  2. No, black crime is no more out of control than any other race's crime

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  3. I don't know/I don't pay attention

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  4. Focussing on black crime is racist and evil

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  1. Zook

    Zook New Member

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    Yes, I can believe it. The KKK was oh so evil, yet blacks have killed about 3,446 White people in the space of about every 2 years. But no one's allowed to say anything about that.

    Although I appreciate your effort, an intelligent response was not needed to that question. :)
     
  2. devilsadvocate

    devilsadvocate New Member

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    I think we should just make more things legal instead of illegal, then there would be less crime in general. Unfortunately we have this group of people called "the Christian right" who want to make everything illegal, and they have been here since the 1600s, doing their thing.
     
  3. Libhater

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    Other than Christians wanting to stop the murder of our unborn and the bastardization of our marriage union, could you list some or all of those things that they want to make illegal.
     
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    don't get it twisted, There is a difference between Christians (I am one of these), and the Christian Right.

    but they want to regulate drinking, drug use, what two adults do in the privacy of their own home.

    here are some of their failed enterprises:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States

    the bastardization of our marriage union,

    we have heard this before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States


    More laws = more crime.
     
  5. ian

    ian New Member

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    Ah, theres those statistics, statistics and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed lies as someone once said. And in your case mostly the (*)(*)(*)(*)ed lies. Heres some more statistics for you
    Seems crime is committed roughly in proportion regardless of race. Now heres another startling statistic
    The majority of murders are comitted by males, seems that the sex of the offender seems to be the determining factor here, what ya going to do about that?.
     
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    Taking into account percentages etc etc etc, yes, black crime is a problem. WHITE crime is a problem as is hispanic and other minorities. The problem is our justice system. obviously. AND the breakdown in Black families. So too in white families.

    Now to address the recent increase in crime by blacks. I see a direct link to the attitude of the president and in his remarks. He and Holder seem to be promoting or, condoning if you will, an attitude of retaliation and justification of black crime against white targets. You see incident after incident. These are brazen attacks, well thought out with specific targets.
     
  7. ian

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    Socio economic circumstances are the determining factor in arrest and incarceration rates, not race. This holds true in every country in the world incuding those countries without significant black minorities.
     
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  8. Zook

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    I don't usually like responding to liberals as stupid as this, but I can't resist this one...

    Yes, statistics are very important and show ignorant liberals who point their fingers from the comfort & safety of their majority-White neighborhoods and communities what racially aware people like me are trying to tell you.

    "All persons arrested for offending"

    Are those statistics including parking tickets, urinating in public and shoplifting? Don't get me wrong, I'm against all those crimes, but when I speak of a "black crime epidemic" I'm talking about violent robberies, rapes, serious assaults and murder. All of which are utterly dominated by blacks.

    Males serve a purpose to society. We build, we create and this may surprise you, but we're needed in order to reproduce and keep civilization going. Males are needed, blacks are not needed.

    You live in Australia. You don't really have a black infestation there. Why don't you mind your own business and keep your nose out of things you know nothing about?
     
  9. waltky

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    More like a pandemic...

    ... and has been for years...
    :omg:
    ... and it's spreading to the Hispexicans...

    ... just look at the population mix in prisons.
    :fart:
     
  10. ian

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    I dont live in a white majority neighbourhood, I dont even live in a white majority household. Im aso not a liberal as you define it and I am pro law and order. Massive fail on your part.

    You have posted nothing thus far which offers any evidence for your assertation. I have posted the real stats, not fabricated ones based on personal opinion. You could have used those in your arguement but have chosen to dribble on repeatedly with nothing more than personal attacks.


    Right, painted yourself into a bit of a corner there havent you? By your own admission now even if black people were not present in your society there would still be the same violence and murder comitted by males. Your argument is facile.

    Lol, funny you should mention things you know nothing about. I have spent nearly one third of my life living in countries with majority non white populations. In my home state of Western Australia over 50 percent of our prison population is aboriginal or who you would call "black". I know more about the this subject than you ever will.
     
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    Black crime an Epidemic?

    Well check out our prison populations.....Hello!!​
     
  12. ian

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    Yeah, full of poor people. How about that.
     
  13. Zook

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    What's wrong with you?

    Black males are included in those statistics of male murders too, you know. Send those blacks back to Africa and those male murder stats would more than halve.

    Aboriginals are not the same as "African-American" blacks. You don't have 500-murder-per-year cities there like Chicago, Detroit or Philadelphia. Like I say, you should refrain from speaking about things you know nothing about.
     
  14. Zook

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    I know, it's a no-brainer to any normal people, huh? I was just trying to scope out the average intelligence and see how many anti-racist morons infest this forum when I posed the question really.

    Yeah... and full of rich blacks, famous blacks, black ex-cops, black sports stars, black musicians, black etc, etc, etc...

    You really have no argument. Liberals like you fail to realize that sex crimes have nothing to do with poverty, nor do drive-by murders, yet blacks lead the way in both of those.

    Poor people commit crime to survive. I don't agree with it, but at least it's a reason. They rob people at knifepoint or gunpoint. They rob banks or rob liquor stores. THAT'S IT.

    Your argument fails.
     
  15. ian

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    But males account for over 90 percent of all murders. We only have your word that these murders are due to black skin and not male testosterone. And from where Im sitting your word isnt worth much.

    Thanks for making my point, Aborginal people although having skin colour similar to african americans do not commit murder at the same rate that allegedly african americans do even though they are incarcerated at a much higher rate percentage wise. So what you are claiming here that there is some uniqueness about African American people which only occurs in America, has nothing to do with the fact they are black (in opposition to your original claim) and only leads to a much higher murder rate in specific cities in the US. Any more completey bizarre claims? Do I lol now presuming the utter stupidity and invalidity of your argument then you must be joking.
     
  16. ian

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    No, Ive got a geat argument because the facts are that in whatever country you are in the world regardless of ethnicity the majority of people in prison regardless of the crime comitted share common traits. The main one is poverty. Theres a few others but I think Ive confused you enough for a while by offering you actual factual information.
     
  17. Zook

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    You're delusional. Like most anti-racists.

    You think only poor people go to jail? Last time I checked practically the entire NBA and NFL was comprised of criminals.
     
  18. Zook

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    Now it's not just my word...

    http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html

    Seriously, you need to see statistical evidence that blacks commit more murder than any other race to believe it? Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

    I said that Aboriginals are not the same race as black African-Americans. They are not the same race as blacks from Africa. If you'd lived a little instead of cocooning yourself inside your Australian existence of Aboriginals and Whites then you'd have some understanding of REAL racial issues. Black Africans in England are the same as over here. Blacks make up 3% of England's population, yet the police have had to set up a special little unit (Operation Trident) to deal with all the black murders and crime.

    You cannot debate the black crime epidemic by talking about Aboriginals. It's not the same. Do you understand now?
     
  19. ian

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    Straw man alert. I didnt say only poor people go to jail.
     
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    America...The Land of Opportunity

    Blacks have the same opportunity any other white has to get an education.
    It's not about not giving the chance by the man. Or not being able to afford it.

    Starting from childhood. It is their choice to what they want to make of themselves.
    When you take in consideration, that foriegners can come into America, not even speaking the english language. By the thousands going to night schools taking courses, and learning a trade or occupation.

    I do commend those blacks that get an education and do well. They deserve better in their lives.
    While those many other blacks choose to live their useless lives they way they do. And their choice leads them to commiting crimes and prisons.
    Ignorance is bliss.
     
  21. ian

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    Straw man alert, I didnt say that black people didnt commit more murder than other racial groups. You also didnt post statistical evidence, you posted fabricated stats from a far right website. FBI stats are easy to find, post them.

    I didnt debate aboriginals, if you paid attention I offered you a clue as to why incarceration rates are higher for certain groups. You have little understanding of this subject and you have yet to offer any semi intelligent input but let me try again anyway. Regardless of ethnicity incarceration rates for those in lower socio economic circumstances are considerably higher in any country in the world, this holds true for countries which have few or no people of african descent. Starting to get the picture? Discrimination leads to poverty and poverty leads to being arrested for criminal activity. Note how I said incarceration rates and not crime. Another fact (yes I know Im bombarding you with factual information and your brain hurts but it needs to be said), people in lower socio conomic circumstances are much more likley to be imprisoned for the same offences than those from a wealthier background. This is true for all types of criminal offences including murder. What does all this mean I hear you say? It means that if you are a black person in America (or an aboriginal in australia, or a catholic in protestant ireland etc. etc.) you are much more likely to be convicted and go to prison than a white person for the same offence. Understand now? There is no such thing as melanin induced violent crime, while some predispositon towards certain tyes of crime can be genetically inherited the genetic inheritance is not racially based.
     
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    Look what youve made of your opportunities. Lol. Cue banjo music.
     
  23. ian

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    Oh I missed this, then had to Lol. I have lived in a number of countries and cultures, I bet youve never been out of yours once.
     
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    I'll try harder...
     
  25. Zook

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    The website those statistics is on has taken them directly from the FBI website and if you'd bothered to look you'd see the download page right there for you to verify what they're saying.

    As for the rest of the garbage you're spewing, it holds no factual basis. Even if poverty was linked to crime or incarceration rates, I still don't want my children growing up around dangerous black skinned "people" who have proven without a shadow of doubt that they're more prone to violence and crime... and that's my whole argument anyway. Blacks don't belong in civilized society with the rest of us.

    It's clear you know nothing about real racial issues and your arguments are childish and immature. It's quite obvious you haven't researched racial issues properly, so I'm done with you. You're just living proof that anti-racists are ignorant and childish. See ya.
     

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