Is Taxation Theft?

You realize that's less than thirty years, during which time people were probably still doing a lot of barter?

 

I wasn't implying anything. If the federal government goes, your dollars will be worthless.

 

Redistributing wealth to the unearned has a negative economic consequence. It raises the cost of production because you are paying for a lack of it in this case. You know the saying: You cannot consume more than you produce. Welfare encourages the recipients of it to consume without producing. That lost production has to be compensated for somehow.

 

You realize we repealed the income tax 4 years later and it was not instituted again for another 41 years after that?



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If industry fails to produce any goods, that money will be worthless and there will be no wealth to tax and no goods for the government to purchase (do you think the government manufactures police cars, army tanks, concrete for roads, steel for bridges, textbooks for schools?)

 

They used the Spanish dollar, like Zimbabwe.

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Taxation isn't "welfare". Generally speaking, the bureaucracy does something "productive" or "relevant" or the state and currency becomes defunct.

 

If it was it wouldn't automatically come out of my paychecks. Filing is voluntary, but if you owe and don't file, you will involuntarily go to jail and or face huge fines

 

Oh good grief. What a dumb question.

Taxation is not theft. If you don't want to pay taxes, then stay off public roads and bridges, keep your kids out of schools, fight your own fires, police your own house and when there's war don't rely on the military to protect you.

 

I didn't say taxation is welfare. That is a straw man. Taxes are a method of raising revenues for the government's use. Welfare is one of many categories in the budget. My claim is that the money becomes loot when it is given to a welfare recipient. It isn't when it pays the wages of a government worker (such as a police officer). I think you need some help with reading comprehension.

 

So demand that the government obtain officials or capitalists to employ them, or otherwise grant them facilities. Why are you complaining to me? Are you voting me for office?

 

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If taxes are used to benefit all they are expected. But when I have to pay taxes so some lazy bastard can lay around like my tomcat, it is theft!!!!

 

Actually, capitalism is a system in which property rights are protected, which is to say, the opposite of theft.

 

You sign a contract and agree to repossession if you do not pay your bill. I never agreed to be taxed unfairly. I "signed up" to taxation based upon what the constitution permits the government to tax me for. Very few of the things we are taxed for today are allowable by the constitution.

Let me ask you this. If the government comes out and declares it legal to kill homosexuals. Would that mean it's not murder to kill a homosexual? Or is it simply legalized murder?​

 

I count corporations as part of the government. Mostly, corporations are large bureaucracies.

 

Demand ? Make people hire the unemployed ? Ok, I'll give that order right now if you think it will solve anything.

 

You will have to make me autocrat.

 

I'm scared already

 

I don't think I could pull it off.

 

Ok then. Discussion closed.

 

So if govt made laws to ban no whites in the country that wouldnt be racist because........The People have assigned, via democratic self-governance
If govt said marriage was 1 man and 1 women only that would be fair because...........The People have assigned, via democratic self-governance
If govt said you must be drafted into war thats fine because.................The People have assigned, via democratic self-governance
If the govt wants to collect all your information that ok because .......... The People have assigned, via democratic self-governance

You leftists carry on about the collective restricting the individual as haters, bigots ect all the time -when it suits (almost always anti-western tradition/ culture and whites). Yet have no trouble at all in having the collective taking whatever property they like from the individual for more govt control. In fact you believe the govt should take more, much more. Leftists can't even conceded if we have taxation it should be as minimal as possible.....nope it needs to be as big possible for them!

 

Is it not libertarians that argue corporations can replace government functions? How do you replace government functions and not be governmental? In it's prime, the Soviet bureacracy arranged for the making of cars, you prefer to call your bureacracy Chevron and Ford. Why did you think the government bailed them out?

 

An employer owns a nut and a bolt. The employer pays a worker to attach the nut to the bolt. The employer still owns the nut and the bolt.

Why would ownership of the nut and bolt suddenly pass to the worker?

 

Serfdom. Well done.

 

The problem is at what point does taxation become theft?

Is it reasonable for the government to tax us at 1% to pay for services? Perhaps.

Is it reasonable for the government to tax us at 100% to pay for services? No.

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So let me ask you. How do you get a big screen tv or a PS3 or an Escalade?