Islamophobia? What really are you afriad of?

Embassies are as needed.. not just a frivolous gesture.

The problem all Islamophobes have in common is a rejection of all intellectual inquiry.

I don't know if that is laziness or a rejection of education in general.. or a soundbite mentality..

If the subject interests you.. you can read correspondence at the Library of Congress or a number of serious biographies on the Founding Fathers.

 

Do you feel the same about Jews and Judaism-after all that's a Middle Eastern religion too, and hardly 'American'? What about Roman Catholics and their faith? Chinese, Japanese? What do you really want, a white, Anglo-Saxon and Protestant America? Won't happen mate, ever.

It's worth reminding you that EVERY American has an immigrant ancestor.

 

One would think the whole Barbary wars would have given cause...

Either way you have yet to answer or provide any type of point except to dance around and avoid the truth...

 

Really now? Who exactly signed the Constitution? Do tell... Granted there were no Indians, as I know them, but plenty of others, yet no Islamists... Go figure...

 

I asked you a very simple question, so please, don't go off on a tangent. Why would you consider Judaism any more or less American than Islam? By the word is 'Muslim', not 'Islamist'.

Were there any Jews among the signatories to the Constitution?

 

Find out yourself, I'm not here to be a tutor... You foreigners always want everything handed to you, like your pathetic countries, which we already did twice, unless you forgot...

 

The problem all Islamapologists have in common is a rejection of all intellectual inquiry regarding Islamization, even to the point of pretending that the protectionist authors and their information is all invalid.

Invalidation is hard-wired into Islamapologists.

 

Not invalid.. deliberate.. Its source of income for Islamophobes... but not for YOU..

 

There is no problem in seeing 2 reasons for them to NOT be here. They are, by definition, supremacist and seditionist, and in violation of Article 6, Section 2 of the Constitution (the Supremacy Clause), and in violation of US Code 2384 (Seditious Conspiracy). And what the seditionist/supremacist Muslim Brotherhood is doing in America as a legal organization is mind-boggling. It should be outlawed, as it was in Egypt with Mubarek.

This is just another example of how far this country has sunk, when votes, money sales to businesses, and whatever else motivates politicians to accept these traitors, trumps integrity and protection of the American people and America's Constitutional and legal foundations.

 

Ok, so you have no answer.

Hmm, WW1 USA turns up in 1917, a few months before the end-which was already a foregone conclusion.
WW2 USA doesn't get involved until both Hitler and Japan declare war on you, and you had no choice but to get involved, two years late in 1941.
Lend-Lease; we paid you back every last penny-along with the interest you demanded.
The USSR expended more in terms of lives lost, and military defeats of the Germans, than the rest of the Allied Forces combined.

 

This is your opinion, and evidently not shared by your government. Your opinions, as usual, are both bizarre and factually laughable. So why is this 'sedition' so conspicuous by its total absence? If it is so prevalent then why aren't we hearing about it from anyone but lunatics with vivid imaginations?

Oh yes, nearly forgot. The 'Islamization quiz'. First question please...

 

How many Jews were there? Or blacks or Sikhs or Mexicans or Hindus or Buddhists or Parsis or Japanese?

 

Your hero Reagan would disagree with you on that.

 

1. Of course, there is no such thing as an "Islamaphobe"

2. Oh yeah, note the new defense. Protectionist authors are just in it for the money. So therefore, all the content is invalid (we are expected to conclude). Maybe the book "Great Expectations" will have to be re-written with a new theme. Well, all I can say is if the sales of books and speeches makes money for them, fine. But that, in no way, invalidates the content of their books which are all mostly just reports of recent American and European FACTUAL EVENTS, wherein the inescapable conclusions are apparent.

Just to show how idiotic this tactic of invalidation is (using money as a weapon) consider this:

Dr. John J. Medina is a developmental molecular biologist focused on the genes involved in human brain development and the genetics of psychiatric disorders. He holds joint affiliate faculty appointments at the University of Washington School of Medicine, in its Department of Bioengineering, and at Seattle Pacific University, where he is the director of the Brain Center for Applied Learning Research. was the founding director of the Talaris Research Institute, a Seattle-based research center originally focused on how infants encode and process information at the cognitive, cellular, and molecular levels, and named Outstanding Faculty of the Year at the College of Engineering at the University of Washington; the Merrill Dow/Continuing Medical Education National Teacher of the Year; and, twice, the Bioengineering Student Association Teacher of the Year.

Like Brigitte Gabriel, Robert Spencer, Paul Sperry, Frank Gaffney, et al protectionist authors, Dr. Medina is an author and gets paid for his writings and speaking engagements, where he is a regular speaker on the relationship between neurology and education.

So should we say that Dr. Medina's books and speaking engagements are invalid because he's making money from them ?

The comments that flow from Islamaplogists in this forum are so shallow/ludicrous, that I often feel a bit embarrassed by even dignifying them with a response. That reminds me. You still haven't told me which Spencer book it was that you read, Margot ? Want to tell us ?

 

I'm glad you brought 'Great Expectations' up. Dickens was also a noted author of works of fiction.
I don't need to read 'Mein Kampf' to understand that it is a book of lies, hatred and bigotry, written by a madman who was as convinced of his assertions as your lunatic protectionists are of theirs.

 

It is NOT an opinion, it is FACT.

Stealth Jihad is THE method of operation of the Muslim Brotherhood as was revealed in the Brotherhood's 1991 Explanatory Memorandum...for North America, discovered by the FBI in 2005, and declassified in the Holy Land Foundation, Hamas terrorist funding trial in 2007 & 2008.

The key words from it are :

"The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all that the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood in North America] must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands, and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated, and Allah's religion is made victorious over all religions."

Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al

Absence of sedition ? Not hardly. And why aren't we hearing about it ? Not "we". YOU, who haven't done your homework. You know who's heard about it. >> The 5 or 6 Muslim Brotherhood leaders convicted in the Holy Land Foundation trial, and now rotting in prison, for the rest of their lives.

And yes, you have heard of it. I've posted this Explanatory Memorandum excerpt many times, and you've seen it, and you know about it. And then you come in and pretend it doesn't exist. Guess what that does to your credibility. It gets it about as high as your grade on the Islamization Quiz, Mr, Quiz Zero.

 

LOLOL.. and YOU think MB is monolithic... because Pam Geller told you so.

 

You would think then that most terrorist attacks on US soil would be by Muslims wouldn't you? You would be wrong.

Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database

But things are much worse in Europe aren't they with the Muslims taking over Surely 90% of terrorist attacks there must by by Muslims right?

Wrong again.

 

And you think we will believe that you know much of anything about the US Muslim Brotherhood ? Well, let's see if you do. Here's a list of US Muslim Brotherhood front organizations (as designated by the US Justice Dept) Let's see how many of them you can tell us the names of (from their abbreviations). Go ahead. Apparently, from your last post you'd like us to think you're knowledgable. Here's your chance to prove it.

Muslim Brotherhood front groups in America

(CAIR, ISNA, MAS, MSA, ICNA, FCNA, MAYA, AEF, UASR, IAP, BMI, IIIT, IMANA, AMSE, ICNA, Islamic Institute, AMC, AMF, Success Foundation, GSISS AKA Cordoba University, NAIF, IIFTIKHAR, AMSS, TIAA, IRO, African Muslim Agency, Safa Trust, SAAR Foundation, MMCT, Dar El-Eiman USA, ADAMS, IANA, GRF, MWL, MYNA, HHT, Islamic Academy of Florida, Fairfax Institute, AMT, IIFSO, AMCE, AMAFVAC, CISNA, Islamic Media Foundation, et al

 

Without going into negative numbers, there is nowhere lower than zero.

 

Yeah- the Founders sure as hell did mean Islam. Just like they meant Jews and Hindu's.

One of the wonderful things about the United States is that all religions have a place in America. And I say that as an atheist.

 

I don't quite get why Conservatives believe that they have some deep understanding of what our Founding Fathers would or would not want....without taking the slightest bit of effort to find out.

Thomas Jefferson- Letter to John Adams (12 September 1821).
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.

 

Frankly what matters is the Constitution- and the Bill of Rights in the Constitution clearly says that Congress shall make no laws regarding establishment of religion.

But as I posted before, I will post it again- Thomas Jefferson specifically included Muslims(Mohammedans) in his discussion of who was included in the Bill of Rights.

the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.

 

And if there were any evidence that the Muslim Brotherhood was acting seditiously in the U.S., i t would be outlawed- like many muslim organizations have been.

Imagine- requiring evidence before making an organization illegal. What is the U.S. coming to.

 

What you posted was a letter written decades after the document itself was signed. Jefferson is but one signatory of many. The actual results of how our government acted when the Founders' were in power, tells all the story we need. Look to those ACTUAL results, of our ACTUAL Founders' and then tell me again how I'm so wrong... This isn't Rome or Greece, where all the history is written centuries after events happened, we have all the history of this nation available, too bad liberals simply ignore it or try to change it to their whims, not everyone is so intellectually weak...