Israel Arresting Palestinian Children For Facebook Posts

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While Native Jews & Native Arabs got along reasonably well over the decades prior to the invasion of FOREIGN, European Terrorist Gangs, the vast influx of militant Zionist Extremists coming from Europe, the US & afar changed all that.

    Please note: EXCERPT "
    Myth #1 – Jews and Arabs have always been in conflict in the region.

    “ For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine
    British held a commission of inquiry, which reported their finding that “there is no inherent anti-Semitism in the country, racial or religious.” Rather, Arab attacks on Jewish communities were the result of Arab fears about the stated goal of the Zionists to take over the land.

    Representatives from all sides of the emerging conflict testified to the commission that prior to the First World War, “the Jews and Arabs lived side by side if not in amity, at least with tolerance, a quality which today is almost unknown in Palestine.”

    The British Hope-Simpson report of 1930 similarly noted that Jewish residents of non-Zionist communities in Palestine enjoyed friendship with their Arab neighbors. “It is quite a common sight to see an Arab sitting in the verandah of a Jewish house”, the report noted. “The position is entirely different in the Zionist colonies.”CONTINUED[1]


    - So, your contention that:
    translates into the quote:

    "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as
    slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General
    Shlomo Lahat as mayor of Tel Aviv, 1983.



    The bloodiest enmity between Jews & Arabs began before the official Zionist Ethnic Cleansing Plan came into effect & continues today because Palestinians are unwilling to live under a Genocidal, ruthless & brutal Occupation.

    "ISRAEL'S PLAN DALET"; THE GREEN LIGHT FOR ZIONISM'S ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE"

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/israels...estine/5326140
    EXCERPT “On that day in 1948, two months before Israel’s unilateral declaration of independence in defiance of the will of the organized international community as it then was at the UN, Zionism’s in-Palestine political and military leaders met in Tel Aviv to formally adopt PLAN DALET, the blueprint with operational military orders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.”CONTINUED

    _ _ _ _



    Face Facts!

    Palestinians in Gaza are growing up in a Combo: Recreational Shooting Gallery[2], Weapons Testing Zone[3], Israeli Settlement Septic Tank[4] & under the residue of 60+ years of Genocidal Occupation, humiliation, medical deprivation & malnutrition all at the delight of Israel's Right Wing Extremists[5]


    I've treated severely emotionally disturbed children from chaotic environments as a Psychiatric Case Worker but can't imagine what a lifetime of constant IDF savagery, arial bombardments, Bio/Chem & Genotoxic weapons contamination [6], [7], [8] would do to the formation of a young mind.

    It is precisely these forms of Genocidal abuse by Right Wing Zionist miscreants who have created the entirely justified enmity within Occupied Palestinian society.

    Palestinian children don't need to be trained to hate a ruthless, murderous & barbaric Occupier. Your Genocidal Zionist criminality has given them all the reasons they need.

    [1] “Top Ten Myths about the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”
    http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/


    [2] “Video Shows IDF Snipers Shooting Palestinian Children For Fun, But Facebook Won’t Let You Share It”
    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/0...n-for-fun-but-facebook-wont-let-you-share-it/


    [3] “The Lab”: Israel Tests Weapons, Tactics On Captive Palestinian Population”
    http://www.wrmea.org/wrmea-archives...actics-on-captive-palestinian-population.html


    [4] “DEMONSTRATING THE HARMFUL EFFECTS CAUSED THROUGH THE ILLEGAL ISRAELI SETTLEMENT PRACTICE OF DUMPING WASTEWATER ONTO PALESTINIAN AGRICULTURAL LANDS”
    http://www.arij.org/latest-news/479...ater-onto-palestinian-agricultural-lands.html


    [5] Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html



    [6] “CONSEQUENCES OF ISRAELI WEAPONS TESTING ON GAZA”
    http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspo...s-testing.html


    [7] “Gaza sees more newborns of malformation”
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...t_12737744.htm


    [8] “The DIME Bomb: Yet another genotoxic weapon, Part III”
    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=5748
    EXCERPT “ Since early July, Israeli forces have been using a new weapon in the Gaza Strip that inflicts strange and deadly wounds....
     
  2. hk91a2

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    " And as a Jew, let me tell you that the hatred I have received from other Jews" Thank you for the welcome, that's quite a revelation. What tribe do you hail from? Are you Khazar, Sephardi,Radhanite, Ashkenazi, or is that the same as Khazar? What text do you like? You definitely don't like the Talmud, how about the Torah, New Testament, the Kabbala, or is that just a bunch of mystic nonsense? For the record, expelling Zionist/Bolsheviks from a host country is one thing, locking up a race of people for the crimes of the few is another; that will bring me and my rifle. Shalom
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, what is beyond belief is the disgusting hatred of Jewish people that this topic is being used to justify and excuse.

    Its one thing to disagree with Zionism, its one thing to be appalled by Israeli actions, but to USE such ideas and govt. actions as an excuse to HATE and ATTACK all Jews, is disgusting and sickening!!!!
     
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    It's not oft that I actually get angry here as it is a sharing of opinions and welcome but sirrah! Your daft ignorant trolling is done with me! You segment my response yet don't answer a single bloody question? Each response is a deflection. I asked honest questions and you play games. These are serious issues striking to the core of the seemably insurmountable task of finding a common ground with our Palestinian neighbors.

    Noticed I said our? Look at my avatar. Look close. Those features. I'm 1st generation American Jew and a Texan. My grandparents live in Jeresulam and we are so blessed to have made that possible for them financially.

    Just like in the US, Israel due to politics there are policies in the name of security and fear that blaspheme all faiths. I say nay for the one true God one not have it so. In the name of Abraham and Moses who viewed the true scripture if you ever play games with one of my posts again I will destroy every shallow zealot post you make.

    Not everyone here is a blind lemming running off cliffs. Spread the truth and the faithful will follow.

    Here's the barbaric video you asked for that embarrasses our people

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/0...n-for-fun-but-facebook-wont-let-you-share-it/
     
  5. Camryn64

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    what else they can do???
     
  6. Pisa

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    I have some questions for the "oh my god (malek or others, I'm not discriminating between gods) how are poor Palestinians suffering abuse and torture from evil Zionists for ever" theory adepts.

    As we can clearly see all around us, people from troubled zones who really suffer, like Syrians, Iraqis, Sudanese, Afghans, or Eritreans, leave those troubled zones in droves looking for safe places to live. Even people from peaceful places like Poland or Romania leave their native countries to look for better lives in developed countries. Why then don't Palestinians - who suffer greatly according to some here for more than half a century, whose children are supposedly kidnapped, arbitrarily imprisoned without trial and tortured, whose livelihood is being, again supposedly, destroyed by mean settlers who also steal their lands, who suffer every possible and impossible injustice in the most troubled (according to some) zone on Earth - leave their homes in search for a better life, just like everyone else on this planet? Why don't we see massive immigration of Palestinians from West Bank and Gaza in Europe or the US? Why don't we hear about small Palestinian children drown in desperate attempts to flee the horrors of being under Zionist boots?

    Anyone?

    Funny that facebook won't let you share that video, but it's all over the internet anyway...it's been for a long time.

    There are several problems with both the video and the article.

    Al-Khalil is not an area in Hebron, It's the Arabic name for Hebron. But we're told that the shooting was done in Gaza.

    We're also told that those were children, even though we can't see if they're children or not, The "journalist" herself makes contradictory statements in this regard (did she use several sources and couldn't make up her mind which was more trustworthy, or did she not notice the contradictions?). Both the title and a paragraph in the article state that those were children, but we are later told that they appeared to be children, which is not the same thing even by the shoddiest journalistic standards.

    versus

    Nowhere in the video are we told that those were children. The persons on the rooftop are not clearly seen, even though the cameraman had a powerful camera. Why no close up on the supposed kids, even after the shooting, to clearly show that evil Zionist soldiers shoot innocent Palestinian children? Who then claimed first that those were children and where is the proof? Why should we blindly believe the first statement, but ignore the second?

    Furthermore, in such situations, no live rounds are fired. Only rubber bullets. There are very strict rules for firing live rounds.

    This article is a fine example of unethical journalism at work.
     
  7. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    What? Have you read it? I think you are oversensitive with these topics and that is why you think like that.

    Who has done that? What thread are you confusing with this one? This is the thread that shows what Israel does with the billions they take from us each year; they imprison and torture children!

    For posting on freakin facebook!


    IF PEOPLE WANT TO HATE THEM FOR THAT, WHY CAN THEY NOT? AND WHY DO YOU GET TO SAT WHAT IS OK TO HATE ANYWAYS?

    Seriously? This thread is not "an excuse to HATE and ATTACK all Jews." If you can't tell yet that people hate Israel for her behavior, then there is nothing left to say.

    Think if this happened to your child.

    CALL ME CRAZY, RON, BUT IT IS NORMAL TO HATE THOSE WHO ARE TORTURING AND IMPRISONING CHILDREN FOR POSTING ON THE INTERNET!

    Be serious. For once.
     
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    Let me guess: Because Palestinians are in fact a postnazi military force whose task (that they conduct with a sacrificial hive-mind) is to kill Jews, just for hatred's sake.

    I mean, what is a Palestinian's use beside hating jews, right? It's not like these people have lives of their own - they're just bomb bots.

    * Or *

    They like it - they like being abused, tortured, and stolen from. You guys are just servicing them. You and your golden hearts.

    =)
     
  9. Pisa

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    This story about the 17 years old Ahmed - no family name, no personal details, no facebook link to his arrest-triggering account, nothing that could turn a name into a living, breathing person - seems to be a cross between two real Ahmeds, both arrested (one received support from facebook creator, the other got convicted over a facebook post). One in the US, the other in GB.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/17/us/texas-student-ahmed-muslim-clock-bomb/

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-19883828

    Is the third Ahmed real? I see no reason to think he is, and I see no reason to think he's not. In other words, the article linked in the OP is completely useless.
     
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    Or you could say why don't Israeli people move, after all they are having destructive rockets showering down on them all the time, it's truly terrifying, I mean those sirens going off 3 times a day and then scurrying to their bomb shelters and waiting for hours while nothing happens or heard

    Where ever it is and what ever age they were, the place is clearly not a war zone and you can hear normal traffic and children playing, so why did they have to shoot anyway? For fun?
     
  11. Ronstar

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    who has done that? you really want the answer?



    "I have actually written somewhat extensively on some of the more appalling teachings of the Talmud. In these posts, I quote directly from the Soncino version which is available online and while watered down, it still gives tremendous insight into the racist, child abusing, superiority in their minds that these people are groomed to believe in since birth."
     
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    Strawman and red herring, all in a single paragraph.

    Can you answer my question?

    Nothing is clear in that video. We only have 1 minute of video. Like the story of Ahmed in the mintpress article, this video lacks the most important part for a proper understanding of the events: context.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    are you talking about the authors of the Talmud, or the Jews in general?
     
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    if you knew about the Talmud and Jewish law, you would know that it is VERY difficult to impose the death penalty upon someone.

    there must be two witnesses to the crime they are accused of.

    the two witnesses must have zero connection to the victim of the crime or the accused.

    the two witnesses must have seen each other at the time they witnessed the crime.

    the two witnesses must have both warned the perpetrator, that what he was about to do was a sin.

    the perpetrator must have acknowledged this warnining, and committed the sin anyways.

    the two witnesses were to be questioned seperately, and any evidence from one witness contradicted by another, even a tiny bit of evidence, is to be disregarded.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the millions of Jews persecuted and/or killed by the Nazis, were never questioned as to their beliefs regarding Zionism or Bolshevism. If they were a Jew, they were deemed an enemy of the state, and persecuted and/or killed SIMPLY for being a Jew.

    proven beliefs in Zionism or Bolshevism were not neccessary. Especially for children.
     
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    WhAt a Load of Poop !

    The parents of these kids don't have to train & propagandize them to Hate YOU
    .. YOU do a good enough JOB of that yourselves, with YOUR Illegal & Abusive
    ................................................................................................... Occupation :steamed:

    So long as YOU refuse to address the issues that are the underling cause
    of YOUR Confusion, YOU will only contribute to your own Moral Corruption
    .............................................................................. & Degenerate Behavior

    "If you are strong, and you are fighting the weak for any period of time, you
    ....are going to become weak yourself. If you behave like a coward then you
    ......................... are going to become cowardly – it’s only a question of time."

    ........................... ~Martin van Creveld - Israeli military historian and theorist



    From: - JfJfp - Jews For Justice For Palestinians
    Rise In Torture Of Imprisoned Children
    http://jfjfp.com/?p=87692

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    again, are you talking about the Jews or the authors of the Talmud?
     
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    You are a sick person, you are not a Jew,
    I am a Jew, you are a persecuter and hater of my people disguised as something you are not, Shame on you !
     
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    SamSkwamch Banned

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    You are wrong on everything you posted.

    1) I am a Jew.

    2) Sick people raise their children to hate like this:

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    and like this:

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    3) Shame on those who deny this and try to cover for it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    then why do you attack the Talmud, say that the language in the Talmud justfies hatred of Jews, deny the Holocaust, accuse the Jews of having too much influence in American politics and media, accuse Israel of committing 9-11, accuse the Zionists of starting WW1 and WW2, call Ashkenazi Jews "pasty white Europeans", accuse the Jews of defending pedophiles?
     
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    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Everything I have posted is the simple truth. Spin it any way you like, but before we have peace, we must have truth.

    TRUTH = FREEDOM
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when you post things like that, people will question when you claim to be a Jew.

    its very rare, infact almost unheard of, for a Jew to attack the Talmud, say that the language in the Talmud justfies hatred of Jews, deny the Holocaust, accuse the Jews of having too much influence in American politics and media, accuse Israel of committing 9-11, accuse the Zionists of starting WW1 and WW2, call Ashkenazi Jews "pasty white Europeans", accuse the Jews of defending pedophiles
     
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    I sincerely doubt anything you say.
    No Jew would ever say the treasonous things you speak, there is no redemption for your heresy and blasphemy, you are beyond hope or Forgiveness.
     
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    Is that the rational kind of treatment dissident jews get from their kin? Emotional/biblical peer pressure? It may work but from my side of the fence that's quite a repressive, tribal thing to do.
     
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    you're assuming the claims are genuine.

    after reading his comments for 6 months, I see no reason to do so.
     

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