It's on - July 2

So your failure has put you into nothing but personal attack and insult. Obviously, you have distinct lack of understanding of what is being said. Yes, again case in point.

I find it interesting that you consider being in control of this and clearly you do not understand what has been occurring. I think people who spectate this will decide themselves who is over their head.

As for your life, I wonder were that has been. sitting here all afternoon waiting to attack peoples comments while I have been out and about. So when I return you are sitting here on the edge of your seat to try building your credibility on the bones of another...

Again you have no credibility as a victim as it is YOU who decided to launch with personal attack just like your compatriot.

So yes, again case in point...

 

I just enjoy watching him go wrist flappingly silly over farcical little things SW. You could hand him a big assss lighter and things still won't ignite. Wait for it!

 

again case in point. nothing but insult

 

I am from New South Wales and therefore have not been aware of the impact that Nick Xenophon and his party have been making in South Australia but it appears that Xenophon and his friends are making things tough for the major parties in South Australia.

It seems that one in five voters are considering NXT (Nick Xenophon Team) and both parties seem set to cop an unexpected belting from NXT. The Liberal Party could lose Mayo and Sturt, held by Jamie Briggs and Christopher Pyne respectively and Labor may well be shafted into third place in the state.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...r/news-story/aa2f0f57ece7c31ab93184d847b03857

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-...australian-to-vote-nick-xenophon-team/7458606

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...n-jamie-briggss-south-australian-seat-of-mayo

I had thought South Australia to be the most boring state to watch at this election but that has been turned on its head along with the political establishment.

 

Nick Xenophon addresses issues that concern households, is passionate about making a difference and always manage to get his message accross. It's also not just an election stunt he's been doing this for years, making him appealing not only to his own electorate but even people like me (I'm in Victoria). He's also not too far over to the left or right making him very easy to vote for.

 

Nick Xeonophon has his head so far up the Greens arse; its impossible to determine where he ends and they begin.

Never seen him once vote against a Greens proposal or against the Greens - this tells the story about who good old Nick is in bed with.

Claims independence, but its a load of bullshyte.

 

I disagree with your premise but the logical end point of your premise is that policies of The Greens are the second most supported policies in South Australia according to the polling

I agree that Nick is left of centre but he is far more populist than The Greens.

 

He's been coning voters for years by claiming he is an Independent and not a Greens Candidate. Not surprised in the least though.

The majority of Australians are so farkin stupid, they would eat shyte on a stick, if you wrapped it in gold paper & told them it was corn & carrot chocolate.

 

On election eve the latest ipsos poll is suggesting anything could happen. There is a mixed bag of information on this one. Betting odds are hugely in favour of a coalition win, however, the QLD LNP odds were at $1.15 at this point of the election and guessing Victoria was as well.

Most voters expect a coalition win but voting intentions tell a different story including preferences.

I don't mind a hung parliament but it could be a precarious situation for an independent and probably depends on which leader is willing to sell their arse. Tony Abbott might take one for the team this time around, but then again, he wants leadership back.

On that note, Albo you would think will take leadership of labor party if Shorten is unsuccessful as leader but who really would take the leadership of liberals if they suffered a loss. Pyne or Corman....doubt it. Morrison is my bet to keep seat warm for a period of time for Julie Bishop.

Ah well, not long before result is known, unless of course we get a hung parliament.

 

I've been going through the senate candidates in my state looking for an understanding of fiat currency and MMT, but so far all that's on offer is the same old, same old "we have to live within our means/balance the budget/cut the deficit!" or "overthrow capitalism/international workers unite!" stuff.

I'm also looking for a full employment policy that means full time employment at minimum wage for anyone who wants it, but all I've found so far is versions of job sharing and faith that renewables will save us all. Or international socialism/workers unite.

I'm looking for economic plans- real road maps to get us there- but all I'm finding is motherhood statements and tinkering on the periphery of taxation.

Very disappointing.

 

omg I'm watching the results and Labor is slowly creeping closer

14.8% counted,
L/NP 52
ALP 50

 

Huge swing for Xenophon in SA, Greens are also doing really well in all states

 

This is where your 'brave doggy' story should be, witchypoo.

 

with our politicians lol... yes they're circling atm

 

Interesting. Hung parliament would be a good outcome for Australia. Turnbull certainly didn't get his own way as was anticipated.

 

Yep.

Minority government is actually the norm in Australia though its been demonised for some reason, possibly because we're all fed up with 3 decades of Neoliberalism and have turned away in force from the major parties and the major parties preach against hung parliments to try and woo us back. Our senate was actually designed to prevent the incumbents from having too much power- it was designed to basically hang parliament.

Unfortunately all we were offered again was degrees of Neoliberalism- full Neoliberalism, Neoliberalism Lite or Neoliberalism Liter Still.

Not everybody expected Turnbull to get the high primary vote he thought he'd get, not even some of the commentators, though most of the MSM did. I think they thought if they said and printed it enough we'd vote accordingly - some strange example of confirmation bias and system justification.

 

Our government is based on opposition. It is almost management by debate. But given the deep and abiding belief within the Australian culture not to hand too much power to any one person or group then it is not surprising we end with hung parliaments

 

Well, what a mess we have made for ourselves. I arrived back in the country just in time to vote but unfortunately I doubt I will be still here to see who becomes PM. Back overseas by the end of the week.

I think Australians are probably sitting back thinking, " we taught you lot a lesson", unfortunately they will not pay the price. We will. Years of stagnation, destabilisation, and embarrassing infighting. This is the worst outcome for growth and stability. Yes we taught them, but we have not learnt anything ourselves. I think Tony Windsor put it fairly succinctly when he said that Australians have lost the ability to think past today.

I have to congratulate Shorten for his outstanding ability to sell a complete lie. Up until he pulled the mediscare stunt, I thought he was doing a great job and he was starting to change my opinion of him. But alas a guttersnipe can not survive long outside of his comfort of the gutter. But hey he did prove beyond a doubt that we truly are the stupidest people on earth.

Now for Turnbull. I am sure he looked in the mirror this morning and didn't recognise the person looking back. Nothing good can come from compromising your own self and everything you stand for, just for the desire of power. The people have spoken. They don't like Turnbull the PM, they much preferred Turnbull the minister for nothing. Where he was free to be himself, and speak freely of the future he could envision. Unfortunately for him, if you deal with the devil you must undertake his values.

Some say yesterday was a great day for democracy, and they are surely right. But it was a very sad day for the collective intellect of the Australian people.

 

Is that really a reasonable statement? You live in a country with compulsory voting and a transferable vote system. If I remember correctly, all candidates must be ranked in order to be valid. As far as I am concerned, refusing to vote can be a political statement on the legitimacy of the system. Compulsory voting favours dominant parties. Vote transfers pretty much ensure a two party system (or a permanent coalition in the Lib/Nat case) because most votes make their way to the ALP/Coalition. All in all, Australians, more than most of us in liberal democracies have the right to whinge.

 

No different to liberals claiming the labor party are a wasteful, high taxing government. No different to saying that labor are the party of high interest rates........etc etc etc. There was enough there to certainly suggest the liberals were going to go after Medicare in some form.

A hung parliament is great for us no matter which party governs, the only ones that don't think so are political parties who are restricted in running with their own agendas without checks and balances.

 

A hung parliament gives nothing, just stagnation.

I see this morning that the Federal police are looking at investigating the Medicare texts as a case of fraud. It appears the QLD labor faction sent out the texts under the Medicare banner. Initial investigations have begun and I believe QLD Labor may have something to answer to. TV I know you are a robust Labor supporter, but if you do not see a how fraudulent this was, I don't think you are being fair dinkum. The texts weren't just a simple text message, they had the medicare banner attached.

They all lie, no doubt. I found it funny when Leigh Sales was hosting the election coverage on ABC and Morrisson and Wong were arguing about who lied the biggest. I think she asked if the pair if they actually saw anything disturbing in the fact they were both arguing about lying. She sat back shaking her head, as were most of us. BUT I find this Mediscare debacle as low as I have seen since the Peter Slipper rubbish.

As far as I can see we the people are getting exactly the government we deserve.

 

It is a reasonable statement. The individual has the opportunity of casting a legal and valid informal vote. Only an idiot votes for someone and something they have no understanding or knowledge about.

 

Is is not really compulsory voting - just compulsory sign off that you have attempted to cast a vote - after that point you could draw penises on the ballot or even throw the ballot paper in the rubbish - there is no actual compulsion to cast a VALID vote

As for a preferential system - apparently it is mathematically the same as the presidential system in the usa - without the huge bill that generates

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You should not look on this as a failure of the system but rather the system actually working and working well. "Keeping the Bastards honest"

 

True. It has been the most hilarious election!! The ALP were a hot mess of bs and people just ate it up. Friggin' gold.
The LNP were too detached from what people were thinking/wondering to motivate support from the undecided. Plus with nearly a million new voters this year who would have been generally clueless to policy details, means the whole thing swung left. I don't mind either way, but its pretty funny to think so many people believed the Medicare lie spread incessantly by Shorten, no matter how many times Turnbull denied it. If in doubt, spend now and worry about the bill later on - the 21st century Australian default position to revert to if it all gets too complex FTW!!

 

You cannot seriously blame anyone for not trusting turnbull? Only a dead-set moron would believe politicians don't lie.