It's over for white people?

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by chronotrigger, Oct 10, 2014.

  1. After Hours

    After Hours Well-Known Member

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    Oh please, this is clearly another "the white race is the master race" threads we see regularly on this forum.

    Look, if the white race is "declining", then it's the fault of white people. Black people aren't at fault, nor are other ethnic minorities. White people are choosing to have less babies. It is what it is. Get over it. Stop obsessing over skin color, and realize people are just people.

    Oh, and the notion of a "white culture" that all white people share is a farce. I'm white, and I have virtually nothing in common with some white conservative who lives in south. Absolutely nothing.
     
  2. ThirdTerm

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    12,000 more white Americans died than were born between 2011 and 2012 but the Caucasian population in the US expanded thanks to 188,384 immigrants. The size of the white population would remain the same in the foreseeable future but it grows slower than minority populations, which tend to be much younger on average. The percentage of white Americans would continue to decline due to the influx of Hispanic immigrants but it will not affect the population size of white Americans in raw numbers.
     
  3. chronotrigger

    chronotrigger New Member

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    That assumes a lot. You really think there aren't racists outside of whites who don't look past skin color? Get real man. Black pride exist, brown pride exist etc. What about the future? Future oppression wont occur from arab/muslims or blacks or even chinese people if they get more control? I can make assumptions too. After all I am discussing the future and not the present, after hours. Why do you hate white southern people? Why did you specifically bring them up?

    Let's look at a black majority in a hypothetical USA. In this USA the minority white person is in a small percent of the population and can be oppressed. Blacks could decide to take revenge for slavery and make you give reparations to them for the past. There is literally nothing you can do about it being in the minority. That is just a future prediction, but its very much possible. Oh and muslims passing Sharia Law in UK is a pretty good prediction if they took over the majority population in the UK. Would these be things you would support? Majority of british muslims wanted to cut head off the white british cartoonist who made fun of Muhammad. Free speech would be dead with muslim rule. Another mistake you are making is socitey/culture pressures of today on white people. Whites had plenty of kids back then. So then what changed? Well, whites hear blurbs about overpopulation, more access to birthcontrol, feminism/career women who want to make it big before having a kid so wait later in life, etc.

    >i'm white and have virtuall nothing in common
    Then are you living in a non-white community or a white one? If not I find it very typical of a liberal type. I find this hypocritical because most whites still hangout and interact with whites and I have a feeling you do too. Which means most whites DO have things in common with their own race over other races. There are white culture festivals such as irish, british, etc culture that whites share. Otherwise we wouldn't have greek festivals and all.

    You never answered my question either afterdark. Should Japan be allowed to keep it for themselves ak Japanese? If so, then why can't whites have their own countries?
     
  4. chronotrigger

    chronotrigger New Member

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    Wrong that isn't what this thread is about. White immigrates come from white countries to replinish numbers has nothing to do with my point. The key here is in death to birth ratio for whites thirdterm. EVERY single WHITE COUNTRY in europe and usa has below replenishing birth rates. If you have below 2.0 birth rates which whites do then you are falling. Israel has above but they aren't all jewish whites anyway. Japan for example is expected to shrink in HALF in next 100 years or so because their birth rates are low.
     
  5. Lil Mike

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    OK we get it. So what? It's already been pointed out to you that white populations are declining because white populations are choosing to have few or no kids. So how many kids do you have?
     
  6. chronotrigger

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    That isn't the only factor. Rise of feminism, interracial relationships which happens when you flood white countries with other groups of people, etc. Government can influence white population as a whole. Because Russia for example Putin passed ways to increase their population. And has had some success. USA hasn't. Also, that is a poor argument. Even if I had 50 kids that is like pissing in an ocean of (*)(*)(*)(*). It would take a large scale effort. If you are someone who doesn't care about this topic then why even bother responding this thread. After Dark for example posting here for him makes no sense.
     
  7. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm Demography-curious. So I am interested in the topic, however you are not really adding to the discussion about it. Interracial relationships are a drop in the bucket, so that really has nothing to do with white population decline. Whites are not dying from disease or famine, it's all based on birthrates. And on that, whites have dropped out, by choice.
     
  8. chronotrigger

    chronotrigger New Member

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    Lil mike another problem is white people's choice? Latin countries are dropping to 1.6 birthrates in a few decades according to data there too. I disagree and think it has everything to do with first world culture. If Africa got modernized you will see their birthrates drop too.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    That doesn't make it any less of a choice. When you live in Africa or wherever, you need kids, lots of kids, since not all of them will survive to take care you when you're old. In 1st world countries, it costs more to have and raise kids than any material benefit you get from them since they don't work the farm and contribute to family income.
     
  10. mikemikev

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    We're all humans so White genocide is fine you racists.
     
  11. MaxxMurxx

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    The current decline in birth rates among white populations is a side effect of the "white men's guilt" campaign of the Western ruling elites. Guilt is the most potent tool to manipulate people. People feeling guilty give up self esteem and don't defend their positions (Are you anti feminist, homophob,islamophob, misogynic, heteronormative, descendant of white oppressors, nazi, neo liberal, chauvinist or all together?). Guilt makes people open to manipulations of all kind (known fact from torturers and brain washing). It makes people in addition to feel "small" and unworthy and not to enjoy the pleasures of life, probably reducing their will to set children into that hell of a world. Populations not under the "guilt hammer" don't have that problem. They have another problem: as soon as they become majority it will be themselves having to be manipulated by ruling elites. They are the next targets for shaming campaigns. Their inquisitors are already waiting for them. They only can't see them.
     
  12. chronotrigger

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    It will be interesting to see if China has to face something similar with black people. There is a growing African population in China.
     
  13. btthegreat

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    In short I have no interest in whether any particular race 'survives'and no one has provided me with reason to thus far.

    why should I care if a specific skin toned group of hominids thrives or not? race is a construct of marginal value all along according to geneticists who have studied it. It literally has almost no meaning beyond melanin soaked into skin cells. I have never asked if albinism has a 'right' to survive because it never occurred to me there was something proprietary to protect in melanin amounts. What value it might have left, is sure to die from sex acts and their offspring the KKK disapprove of.

    Now if you are talking culture or nationality, or language there is something however opaque of historically interest. but let 'whitey' die a merciful death. According to many sources throughout history its been dying of the same cancerous invaders for eons anyway. the whole concept of whitey/darkie etc has done enough harm. Its time to stop the chemo. Frankly I can't wait to throw dirt on them both.
     
  14. ThirdTerm

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    It all started with the fall of Singapore in 1942 and the subsequent demise of European colonial empires in Asia. The era of white supremacy came to an end in the 1950s as a result and most white colonies had to adjust their domestic and immigration policies and Australia's White Australia policy was symbolically abolished under British pressure over a period of 25 years. Any laws against multicultural policies have now become unacceptable in the civilised world but Nordic countries may have taken multiculturalism too far by accepting too many refugees and asylum seekers, which seems to be unnecessary.

     
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    so I take it your against inter-racial marriage than?:
     
  16. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    Funny how only Whites swallow this garbage (largely orginating from anti White Jews). I guess Jews, Arabs and Chinamen are laughing pretty hard at idiotic race suiciding Whites.
     
  17. btthegreat

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    I'll bet that's not true. We could probably find a subset of Chinese, Jews, Arabs, Africans, or aborigines from Australia who worry a great deal about their 'race' disappearing, being swallowed up etc, who read bloggers or listen to speeches of people selling the same soap with a local wrapper. We just don't know where to look and those that do, and study the phenomena, aren't getting much attention in Europe, or America. If you think about it would be peculiar in any society or culture not to have such a subset.
     
  18. mikemikev

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    Considering none of them have mass immigration I guess your "subset" is pretty much all of them.
     
  19. btthegreat

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    My subset would still only include those who believed other 'races' existed ( the construct was valid); thought primarily about people arriving in terms of their race as opposed to cultures, nationalities, language use etc; believed that a significant enough percentage of immigration flowed from destinations far enough away that its participants would be of another race( the immigration flow can't be primarily from Korea and Vietnam to China for example because the race is the same and does not matter if it is actually true); and actually felt personally and politically threatened by such a result!

    Considering that I think it takes a concentrated effort by a normally much smaller subset to scapegoat that population of immigrants and to define them mostly in terms of their physical racial characteristics, and who have the political, social and practical wherewithal to sell their vision over competing interests on a pervasive scale long enough to produce this result, i think we are definitely talking about pretty much of all major cultures having this phenomina , but not having it represent the same percentage of their populations or having that phenomina represent much of an impact compared to other efforts to scapecoat on on other basis.
     
  20. truth&justice

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    Little choice. Whites gave up Family Values long ago. Children are an inconvenience and, extremely costly! White Adults Just Want to Have Fun! Call it self-induced,Suicide! Can't have the bounty of everything; with those little Rug Rats running around. Read, Pat Buchanan"s, "Death of the West;" and, "Suicide of a Super Power!" Pat lays it out, perfectly. "Whitey," is Doomed!
     
  21. qwest

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    White people were once the minority here, and they will be again. Luckily for them we are past the point where minorities have water hoses turned on them just becasue they want to exercise their right to vote. Luckily they will never have sit at the back of a bus just becasue of the color of their skin. Lucky for them minorities have fought, and will to continue to fight, for equal right and equal protections. You'll be grateful for this once you are the minority.
     
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    You are simply stating the opposite of the truth.
     
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    what happens happens. The fact is is this world is moving from having different races slowly back to one. Remember we all originated from one race into many due to evolution, environment and other reasons. Today the world is small, there is a lot of inter racial marriages going on. The genes are being shuffled and at some time in the future we will be back to just having the human race.
     
  25. Mr_Truth

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    They tried that in Nazi Germany as well.

    Not such a good idea after all.
     

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