Jayland Walker suffered at least 60 wounds in fatal police shooting, Akron police chief says,

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  1. Bullseye

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    This guy must have been one bad MFer!
     
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    Any decent law enforcement officer knows when taking down a violent suspect who has used lethal force to shoot center mass until the threat is down and no longer moving. There is no such thing as "shoot to wound", wounded people are still a lethal threat.
     
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    Courts are for people who submit to the judicial process not those who try to kill police officers trying to enforce the law. You want justice submit yourself to it.
     
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    There were 8 officers firing and we don't know if it was 60 rounds as the Medical Examiner stated he would have to determine how many are EXIT wounds. Officers are trained to take down any individual who uses lethal force against fire until the individual is down and not moving. There is no wounding and taking into custody once the suspect attempts to kill the police. They are an outlaw at that point.
     
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    It took 60 bullets to stop him moving?
    Was he a robot?
    A transformer?
    Thisvis clearlyca case of poor policing and overkill. Literally.
     
  6. Pixie

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    Courts are for suspects who may have broken the law to see if there are any mitigating circumstances such as mental health issues.
    Police are not there to decide on whether the suspect should be put to death.
     
  7. Steve N

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    How do you wound a moving target and make sure he’s wounded enough not to shoot back? I’ll wait.
     
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    It is still not feasible to accept that it took 60 bullets to stop him.
    That is a firing squad.
    Count to 60 and realise how many that is.
    I don't think some Americans value human life for all the "Christian morality" they spout.
    They seem to view it as expendible, like the life of someone else doesn't matter. That real life is like movie.
    Meanwhile youvhave dead bodies littering the headlines and lining up in morgues all across the country and you don't care.
    That happens in third world countries, not the richest model of western culture.
     
  9. Pixie

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    So he was still moving after 59 bullets?
    Rubbish.
     
  10. Steve N

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    I see you’re not going to tell me how to only wound a moving target and still remain safe. Maybe you tell me how many shots should have been fired.
     
  11. Pixie

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    Silly question..
    But you count to 60 and then try to tell me it takes 60 to stop à person.
    Utter thrill of the kill overshoot. In spades.
     
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    Listen to the video. That's a whole lotta firing.
     
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    Once 1 cop has a reason to shoot you, all the other ones around them have a reason to shoot you too.
     
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    There is no place in policing for mob mentality. For the uncontrolled lust for killing where reason and self control is suspended in some thrilling action movie.
    in fact ISTM that much of the USA has become some sort of movie set for reliving the glory days of John Wayne where you never see à person of colour, women did the cooking and cleaning and kids were cute, eager and obediant. Where justice was carried out without thought for circumstances that may have created a situation, where bad guys and good guys were clearly identified and where life was à sanitised simple affair where bad guys died and good guys lived to tell their grandchildren how virtuous they had been.
    All romantic nonsense of course. But clearly what some try to live out today.
     
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    Call it what you want, but if you have gun and fire it in the presence of 10 cops, don't be surprised if at least half of them don't fire right back at you. Their desire to go home from their shift, tuck the kids in and go to bed themselves instead of being tucked into a body bag and ushered off to the medical examiner isn't "a lust for killing". It is their basic right to defend themselves and the public from someone who thinks the USA has become some sort of movie set for Boyz In The Hood.
     
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    It's already been explained to you that it was not 60 bullets but rather 60 wounds. A single bullet can create zero, one, or multiple wounds. The fact that you don't understand this simple concept does not bode well for the rest of your commentary providing any value.
     
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    Well reportedly they fired 90 rounds at him, so it may very well end up being 60 hits. Anyway, he reportedly had fled a traffic stop, fired from his vehicle, jumped out of the vehicle and ran. The police tried to taser him on the fly but couldn't hit him and when he appeared to be reaching into his waistband, they used lethal force without knowing he had left the gun in the moving vehicle he had jumped from. Whatever the shot count is going to be, this is going to end up being one of those ugly but legal shootings IMHO.
     
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    no where have I said that, ever, why do you keep saying that, please stop misrepresenting what I say
     
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    the if was insinuated before
     
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    I heard his family said he was planning to become a climatologist. He always wanted to combat the global warming and save the planet for future generations.
     
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    I said it should be investigated, learned from and if anyone broke the rules, then they should be punished - I never said anyone needed to be punished

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ron-police-chief-says.601365/#post-1073561400

    no where did I defend the alleged criminal as you said I did
     
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    Oh that's right because he's guilty until proven innocent in your eyes despite 6 years of politically motivated investigations which have produced NOTHING!
     
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    Doesnt matter. I don't care
    about the niceties.
    I don't accept the semantics deny the barbarism.
     
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    I dont object to self protection.
    I do object to the mindless savage overkill.
    The fact that police seemed to go into some murderous group suspension of reasonable behaviour.
    That their balanced judgement is WAY off reasonable.
    That their behaviour falls far short of professional standards of measure response and that they easily turn into an assassination squad.
    It would make me feel extremely uncomfortable to have to rely on them.
     
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    The cops didn’t know the gun was still in the car. If you fire on the police you assume the risk. The cops were right to not take any chances with this scum bag.
     
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