Jihad vs Crusades

Pakistan crackin' down on madrasas funding...

Pakistan targets funding sources of madrasas to combat terror
Sep 7, 2015: Pakistan has frozen more than 200 bank accounts of unregistered religious seminaries in a bid to break the nexus between militants and those who provide them funds.

 

Depends how you categorize profit. Plenty of profit in Jihad, land, goods, slaves, payment from non Muslims, etc. .

 

There's some good books out there, including ebooks on Amazon, that cover the history of the crusades.

They were originally conceived of as an "armed pilgrimage" to take back the holy land (mostly Jerusalem) from Muslims and sometimes to defend the Byzantine empire, although for really contested reasons the 4th crusade ended up conquering Constantipople which ironically weakened the Byzantines by enough that they could be conquered by the Turks. The Turks then committed a series of genocides against the indigenous Christian populations of what is now Turkey, culminating in the Armenian genocide that they still sometimes argue never happened although millions of people disappeared. There are almost no Christians left in the Muslim world today.

 

It wasn't just Christians as much as it was non-Turks and it was not really jihad but Turkish ethnic cleansing. The Crusades play no part here as they were long since over in 1453 except insofar as all attempts to call one to rescue Byzantium failed

A major thing to be kept in mind about the Crusades is that several large ones were called against other Christians, particularly Medieval "heresies. The one against the Albigensians in Southern France and the several against the Bogomils in the Balkans are the best known. The Teutonic Knights called several against pagans in Eastern Europe as well but these were largely part of an ongoing campaign of territorial aggrandisment.

 

You should look up Tours. It was a raid, "a reconnaissance in force" to use the modern military term. Had the muslim Army been the conquering horde you seem to think Martel would never have stopped them

You seem to have no idea, or rather are purposely ignoring, the fact that Muslims and Christians lived together largely at peace in Spain for several centuries. The Reconquista was almost totally at Christian instigation. The entire southern littoral of Europe is largely Islam influenced to the present day yet Christians are and remain the majority people.

 

Of course ignoring the fact that Muslims were in Spain by conquest.

 

The Marionites of Palestine along with several other sects spread throughout Southwest Asia are going to be surprised to find this out.

If you want some idea of how the Turks felt toward the Christians in their territory you could do worse than examine the history of the Janissaries

You should also read what Lawrence of Arabia said about the Turks

 

If by Conquest you mean moving into largely empty territory and the power vacuum that the previous "rulers" had never really established law and order in then I guess so. Many of the peoples "conquered" by Islam welcomed their new masters. The Arab "Empire", far from being this monolith that Christian propagandists have always depicted it as, was a feudal as Europe, if not more so. El Cid's name comes from his Arab followers

 

Conquest - the subjugation and assumption of control of a place or people by use of military force. It either appears that you have never heard of or don't understand what Jihad means in this instance.

 

Are you seriously presenting the Janissaries, whom are usually described as Christian slave soldiers of the Ottoman empire, as an example of Muslim tolerance? The fact is that Turkey was a Christian country before the Ottomans killed them all, which was after they decided the Christians were no longer useful as slaves.

Edit: There are apparently 3 million Marionite Christians spread throughout the middle east according to Wikipedia, and google says there are 1.57 billion Muslims in the world... so like I said, hardly any.

 

I am seriously taken aback by what seems to me like a new low in terms of bad arguments. It doesn't seem like you care at all. I'm going to try taking a break, possibly permanently from this forum and go back to drawing practice and playing Minecraft, my Christian advice to you is that you try and pick up something similar because you seem like a really angry guy and writing this kind of thing can't possibly be helping you.

 

Bill Warner? He doesn't know anything but demonizing Muslims and telling lies. That's how he earns his living.

 

Jews from North Africa also helped the Muslims conquer Spain.. Some were Berber Converts to Islam.

 

The Janissaries were powerful and wealthy....

 

Are you truly that ignorant of how the Turks ruled an area and what the Janissaries actually were? The Turk's slaves were actually their bureaucracy, Balkan parents vied to have their sons included in the tribute of young boys delivered for they knew it meant they would become wealthy. The Janissaries became a Praetorian that seated and unseated Sultans, their eventual corruption is cited as a main reason that the Empire did not modernize with the rest of Europe.

You really need to study an actual credible text on the history you want to comment on, something written after 1950 at least. Your unquestioning acceptance of lies and half truths about Islam and the Ottomans discredited by most scholars in the 19th century is really cringeworthy in the modern world.