Joe gets serious

What about when the unvaccinated demand to be able to force the consequences of their dangerous health decision on the rest of us?

 

The headline at CNBC.............
Biden outlines plan to mandate Covid vaccines for millions: ‘Our patience is wearing thin’

Indeed it is.

 

Of course totally unconstitutional but when has the left ever valued the constitution.

 

How about the dangerous decision this woman made?


https://mobile.twitter.com/chrissyclark_/status/1436042088777453574


Chrissy Clark


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Well… after getting the Pfizer vaccine and having COVID twice, I have been diagnosed with COVID for a THIRD time.


Symptoms are bad this time around. Prayers are always appreciated.

 

Aside from making our's a more egalitarian and healthy society for the aged, Medicare (socialized medicine) also helps keep health inflation costs down by refusing to pay the exorbitant fees hospitals and doctors charge for their services.

Reagan, what a putz. As many Repubs do he relied on fear mongering, divisiveness, and a bygone era vision of America to gain popularity.

 

Gee, such bullshit.

 

Inevitable indeed. The problem here is that he is couching his authoritarianism with the promise or at least the hope that he can destroy the virus. The science disagrees with him. We haven't destroyed any corona virus to my knowledge and science doesn't think we will destroy this one either. Only the government thinks that or better claims that. The science assumes, probably correctly, that covid will be with us long into the future just like influenza and the common cold.

Vaccination appears to reduce the severity of covid symptoms, at least with our current strains, so they are a great tool in the response to the pandemic. But they aren't the final solution for covid. Most likely there is no final solution, only the requirement to manage it the best we can into the future. Most non governmental doctors believe that we will all be infected by covid eventually as we have all been infected with the common cold. If we can get past the hype, hyperbole and hysteria surrounding covid we can live life with a rational reaction to it. What Biden announced today motivates the opposite and I agree that it will be struck down in court as it should be.

 

People say it's their right to act like an irresponsible idiots. Why shouldn't it be society's right to treat them according to how they act? We impose a variety of consequences for reckless behavior. Especially when it endangers the lives of others. If folks want to absurdly call that tyranny......I'm fine with that. They are free to whine.

 

Mandates, apart from being illegal where unnecessary also couch for the incompetence. Biden wouldn't do this if his approval ratings weren't any higher. Democrats like forcing things out of the idea it's actually altruistic but also because they literally can't think of any other way. It sucks that Americans think the only other alternative is Republicans, because what we need to do is say '**** it, both suck' and vote for a third party. Kick the Dems out of Congress.

 

Here it is. If you are vaccinated you are in danger from the unvaccinated because the experimental vaccine doesn't work so we will make sure everyone takes a vaccine that doesn't work and we will use force if necessary. The left has turned into jackboot thugs.

 

Any office holder at any level of government making common sense health mandates illegal needs to be immediately removed from office.

 

Any office holder interfering with the medical choices of an individual in America needs to be removed from office.

 

But not when medical choices effects others.

 

"While my work is incredibly important to me, the most important role I have is as a mother. Throughout our family planning with our doctor, as well as a fertility specialist, I have decided not to receive the COVID-19 vaccine at this time while my husband and I try for a second child. This was a deeply difficult decision to make and it's not something I take lightly. I understand vaccines have been essential in the effort to end this pandemic, however taking the vaccine at this time is not in my best interest. After a lot of prayer and deliberation, I have decided I must put my family and personal health first.
https://sports.yahoo.com/espn-repor...-while-trying-for-second-child-200900072.html

"however taking the vaccine at this time is not in my best interest." But taking the vaccine is in society's best interest so you should be prepared to have restrictions put on your behavior.

 

My bet is the federal government will no longer exist in 75 years, maybe no longer than 75 months.

 

Load of crap. If the government can order you to perform medically useless acts to fight a pandemic and ones that are of little benefit to some and down right dangerous to others then we don't live in a free country. By the way thanks for a demonstration of just how prescient Ronald Reagan was.

 

I think taking a medically approved vaccine is a better bet than taking horse wormer. And I feel confident that social distancing, keeping my hands clean or sanitized, wearing a mask and staying the **** home as much as possible is why I didn't get COVID early on.

I think getting vaccinated is the prudent thing to do, which is born out by the difference in case's between vaccinated and non vaccinated areas.

It's the right thing to do for yourself, your loved ones and each other.

 

No, you say that. They are trying to get people like you to follow the science instead of following the government. To choose not to be vaccinated is not irresponsible. It is a decision not to take a risk of potential side effects when the virus against which the vaccines were designed are not particularly dangerous aside from their added contagion. Personally I think the risk of covid is far greater than the risk of complications from a vaccine but it is not irresponsible to think the other way.

 

The vaccine helps you not to catch the virus, and if you should catch the virus, it reduces the effects. Vaccinated people also carry and shed the virus, and can infect others.

So, you were saying?

 

If the un-vaccinated were materially more likely to spread a deadly disease than vaccinated, that still wouldn't justify forcing the shot on them. There are all sorts of voluntary conduct in which people engage that could harm others. Driving a car for recreational reasons puts pedestrians in risk of getting run over. Gay sex more likely to spread STDs. Criminalize the gay again? https://www.cdc.gov/std/life-stages...ne who has sex,HIV infections occur among MSM. and more and more.

The irony is, even this bit of BS is not true. The un-vaccinated are not materially more likely to spread Covid.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...accinated-people-have-similar-levels-of-virus

If you are vaccinated and it is any good, you are protected.

There is no reasonable justification for the growth of Facism in the USA. And that is what it is.

" Fast forward 75 years and the government will mandate abortions and sterilization after 2 kids. All the naysayers have to do is look backwards to confirm how much the government takes more and more control of our lives as the years go slowly by. "

 

Even if the treatment DOESN'T protect the others.. Be careful everyone knows the answer to that now

 

It's amazing how much information is out there but yet some simply can't process it logically, I blame the MSNBCNN indoctrination...

 

Like you say

 

Yes a person who purposely infects another with a disease can be sued for that action. But we aren't talking about that. We are talking about vaccines not purposeful infection. While the vaccines are a great tool in the response to the virus being consumed with their implementation is over the top. In other words covid isn't going to go away because we vaccinate. The vaccine can improve the lives of people who are subjected to the virus and those who do not vaccinate will not have the same improvement. It isn't any more complicated than that. Let's get on with life. Down with the hysteria.

 

Intentional or not the material impact is the same. The unnecessarily increased risk to the public by not being vaccinated.