Kasich warns Republicans on ObamaCare repeal

What lie? There are dozens of videos of Obama promising what I just said.

 

Obama said that prior to the current ACA passing. A different plan was being spoken of.

I'm just pointing out your anecdotal stories are meaningless.

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And the proposal being spoken of wasn't the bill that was passed.

 

I do appreciate that you think you know how (*)(*)(*)(*) works, but you are obviously oblivious to reality. I had a great policy that was affordable and offered more coverages than my new "obamacare". When ACA became law, I received a letter from my insurer letting me know that my plan would cease to exist as of then end of that year because it didn't meet obamacare requirements (no maternity) and I would need to find new coverage under the ACA requirements.

So, I ask you, based on what I quoted from you, HOW did my policy go up prior to the ACA.

 

It was the political lie of the year, remember? Even Bill Clinton twice called him out on it. Obama lied, admit it. Trump is president, accept it.

 

Ok, so you think me and millions of others are lying. You just keep going along with that. It doesn't really matter if you believe me or not.

 

And yet they have the gall to say "20 million insured". When it's more like 13-14 million when you consider those who were kicked off. The arrogance of the Democratic Party.

 

The dems won't hear of it, did you see the response above that Obama was talking about a different ACA when he made those promises. You can't make this (*)(*)(*)(*) up if you tried. The desperate dems never disappoint.

 

I've been in the insurance industry for 12 years.

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Ok. You had a non compliant plan.

Premiums rose between 5-15% per year, every year prior to the ACA passing. Increased premiums are nothing new, and not caused by the ACA.

 

If we could pay what the insurance companies actually pay the doctors we could afford the medical bills.

 

Of course. One of many republicans keep peddling.

Obama didn't lie, by definition. The ACA hadn't even passed yet, lol.

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Of course.

Correct. My beliefs aren't relevant. Reality is. And here in reality, your premiums didn't double for less coverage.

 

THAT is the underlying truth behind all of this. And that gets to the real heart of the issue: Raising our income and median wealth so that everyone can enjoy the luxuries of life. And the more people that have wealth, the fewer the government will have to support, which will make a fail like the ACA even managable. . I have a plan to do just that.

 

Reality doesn't have a liberal bias, I can assure you. The ACA wasn't passed when the remark was made, and was an entirely different proposal being discussed.

 

It's really easy to post this stuff and unless you're willing to post personal info which you're not supposed to nearly impossible to prove.

Unless somebody posts an article with actual citations we can look at I'm calling bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on all this anecdotal crap.

Or we can just accept that under Obamacare I went from no coverage at all to a network that flies my personal physician in to anywhere in the world

 

How about you go first rahl, you show us your super cools all expense paid health care deal of the century!

 

Yes. Pre Obamacare $387 per month. This year $911 per month. $5000 deductible then, $6000 now. 20% coinsurance before, 30% now. Coverage everywhere including my last trip to the UK before, no coverage now except for a very limited coverage area and network.

 

huh?
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Show me the DEC pages

 

NO, the dems will swear you are lying and they know your history even better than you do. I'm reading this entire thread just astounded. They actually think we are saving money and have great coverage but just for political reasons, you are making up this huge lie so our great coverage will be taken away. It's a whole new level of low for the left but not surprising.

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I would love nothing more than to show this info just to shut you up, but why would anyone still have that around years later. You know we don't. So go ahead, we're all just lying, we are actually rolling in money from our huge savings.

 

I think it is highly unlikely that the GOP-controlled Senate and House--in addition to soon-to-be President Trump--will repeal ObamaCare without also replacing it. It would simply not amount to good politics.

Of course, there are several (somewhat) different plans out there; and it is necessary, therefore, to agree upon one (or even to compromise among them).

Some people have suggested repealing ObamaCare immediately, and then replacing it several months (or even two or three years) from now. That simply would not work, as the media would surely generate public resistance to this, by interviewing a few people who had lost their healthcare plans.

So I expect repeal-and-replace to be very soon--and (roughly, at least) simultaneous.

 

Too bad for Kasich and all those who fell into the obamacare Medicaid trap.

They were warned.

From 2009:
http://humanevents.com/2009/12/23/obamacare-bankrupting-states/

Obamacare Bankrupting States
Sen. Ben Nelson’s “Cornhusker Kickback” for Nebraska may have given Harry Reid his coveted sixtieth vote, but it comes at a price for the other states, states that are already feeling the hammer of rising Medicaid costs.

Just coming to light is a concern that has been giving governors heartburn for months: the fact that states are going to be hit with a monstrous financial burden with the passage of Obamacare, and none are in a position to handle it.......One thing is for sure, though: passage of the health care bill with a massive expansion of Medicaid will bankrupt the states.​

Kasich knew what he was doing, and he knew obamacare was never popular and was destined to either collapse in disaster or be repealed.

I have no sympathy for Kasich or Ohio.

 

I supplied you with my facts. I would not complain if I was getting a better deal.

 

I voted for Kasich in the primary in my rust belt state. I would have felt much better if he was the President-Elect rather than Trump.
There would have been so much less controversy. It's going to be a bumpy road my friends! Put on your seat belts!

 

So you don't know? Not even a nice try, are you a member of the MSM, contribute to Buzzfeed?

 

Debunked lies? Like we would all save $2,500 and keep our doctors?

So you mean my current policy doesn't have a $6,700 OOP while my previous one had a $4,000? My premium isn't over $320 now when it was just over $175 on the previous plan. On top of that, the network I have available is smaller. So the premium in my case hasn't doubled like the other poster, but is close. The 17% increase I got for this year alone certainly doesn't correspond with the "no more double digit premium increases" promises of Obama.

So a lot of lies have been debunked all right. All of them Democrat lies. It is a little silly to pretend Obamacare was anything more than a con job. Would I be right in assuming you were one of the people on this forum calling everyone liars/racists/Nazis that challenged all those $2,500/keep your doctors/no more double digit increases assertions?

 

Maybe so but the "lie of the year" was we were supposed to spend less, remember> 2500 less.

 

You won't mind posting your license or business credentials, would you?

My, my, my, how the wording has changed. If you were in the insurance business then you surely recall the term used for non compliant plans was 'substandard.' Which is an interesting term considering how insurance policies are approved by each state's insurance commissioner and that includes the insurance commissioners of California and New York. How is it that these liberal states allowed substandard policies to be sold? The answer is Obama needed a reason to cancel these policies in order to get those people on the exchanges.

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Show me your insurance license.