Kasich warns Republicans on ObamaCare repeal

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At the time in 2010 Zogby did a poll on the Democrats health care plan 57% said they didn't like either the Democrat House or Senate plans. Of course they knew better and did it anyway, is it any wonder they lost the House in 2010, the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ya just never know when you might need an abortion pill. Myself, I'm 60 and I'd rather have better major medical and forget the contraception. Obama Care is a one size fits all that doesn't fit anyone very well.
     
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    I've mentioned this before, my 69 year old doctor had her insurance policy cancelled in case her 79 year old bed ridden husband knocked her up. I also see no point in forcing a sterile gay guy to get maternity insurance. I don't drive or have a motorcycle, so should I be forced to by motorcycle insurance?
     
  4. Professor Peabody

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    Those narrow networks allowed the insurance companies to ration health care. In my case I live in the mountains of Southern California. If I wanted to see a doctor where I live, I would have to drive 45 miles down treacherous mountain roads to get to any referred services that would be covered OR pay 70% out of pocket and vice versa. If I wanted to get to referred services where I live, I would have to drive 45 miles down treacherous mountain roads to get to see a doctor that would be covered OR pay 70% out of pocket to go where I live. I thank God I am now covered by my employer and can go where I live to all services and I'm covered.

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    Depends on who you ask. Liberals would say YES.
     
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    If Obamacare had stayed in place in Ohio with the medicaid expansion, the 700,000 would have never paid for it. Your argument is a Red Herring. Kasich will just have to explain to Ohioans that the Right dropped the ball by getting rid of it.
     
  6. Steve N

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    When I lived in CA I only managed to make it up the mountain a few times, maybe 10 times in 21 years. It's nice up there and I had a great time in Lake Arrowhead and some of the other places, it was good to be above the smog. But man did I hate driving up and down the 18, it used to scare the daylights out of me and I never had to do it in bad weather.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

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    Good luck with that.

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    Plenty of snow right now.
     
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    Good gosh, what do some of you guys do for a living that your health care is so costly & well, just terrible?
    I can see why you guys are so irritated.
    I work in a factory. While my cost goes up a bit every year, it's nothing like I'm reading on this site.
     
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    As soon as some of my democrat friends said how much they liked Kasich, I knew he was a moron. I mean, I knew he was a moron before that, but this confirmed it.
     
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  11. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is your insurance through the ACA exchanges or does your employer provide insurance for the employees?
     
  12. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll tell you what most libs never will: Every health insurance policy has to be Obamacare complaint. My company's insurance plan costs a little over $21,000 to insure me and my family and of that cost I pay $9600 in premiums plus I have a $12,500 deductible, so my company is paying $11,400 while I pay the rest. Other people may have their company contribute more, or other people might have tax payers picking up part of their insurance costs. But, as a whole, the cost of insuring someone is basically the same, it's just a matter of who pays what, and if you want to tilt the deductible one way then the premiums will tilt in the other. Now Obama threw tens of millions of people into the mix and the cost to insure them is the same as the cost to insure a millionaire, except everyone who earned more than those tens of millions now have to pay for their premiums. Obamacare is a pure wealth redistribution scheme.

    I work for a Fortune 500 company, and while I'm getting hammered on insurance costs, the technicians I manage have their insurance rates bargained for by the CWA, they pay $68.00 a month and my company picks up the rest. Here's the kicker: Believing Obama when he said insurance would be cheaper and better, in 2012 the union trusted him and negotiated a new contract where, in October 2017, they'll have to pay the same rates and have the same plan management does. The CWA is pissed and pushed for Sanders for no other reason than the hyper expensive insurance rates they're forced to eat and they openly blamed Obama for it. While all those techs are liberals, mention Obama's name around them and you'll get some pretty unpleasant responses.
     
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    If Kasich likes his obamacare he can keep his obamacare.....Obama promises....hahaha!
     
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    I love all the good christians in here from the right so eager to throw people off their health insurance. Jesus would be proud of you.
     
  15. Steve N

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    They don't have to be thrown off, all you libs have the option of paying their way, heck 62,000,000 people voted for Clinton, that should be enough people to pick up the tab for what they feel so strongly about.
     
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    Yet another good christian, following the bible and the book of selfish. Make sure you fill up the collection basket on your next visit to the church. The pedophiles and scam artists are counting on you.
     
  17. Steve N

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    Ummm...I'm agnostic. So how much extra are you going to pay so the uninsured can have insurance they can't use? Wait...as a liberal it's everyone else's job to pay, not yours. And that's the way it is with libs from Obamcare, to taxes, to global warming misery, etc. everyone else pays but not them.

    Now show us the high road you libs claim to have, the superior morals and compassion for your fellow man, and dig deep into your wallet and pay for the insurance for those people you say need it. But, alas, you seem more determined and happier to see others do what you won't.
     
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    Same here. My deductible nearly tripled. Now I'm Obamacare free in 2017 and couldn't be happier. Bring on my tax penalty!
     
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    Lol so when you get hit by a bus tomorrow what happens?
     
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    Ah right so libs should pay for uninsured because you don't want to. It's that right?

    Instead of both libs and cons paying for everybody you want only libs to pay now.


    Go ahead you can say it. Or are you too chicken?
     
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    The last thing anyone needs is a government plan
     
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    Of course, we all know he's going to stick his costs to the public. That's how the wannabe capitalists work: Privatize the gains, socialize the losses.

    Maybe he should just admit that he is a moocher, as the ones he and his conservative allies despise so much.
     
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    I don't consider myself a Christian, but I'm certainly not eager to throw people off their plans, did anyone ever say that? Can you quote it, because I must have missed it? How did you feel when Obama kicked millions off their plans?

    What most of us want is health insurance that is affordable for our families because as it is now under obamacare, it's only affordable for those receiving welfare subsidies. I can't keep getting kicked with this double digit increases on top of premiums and deductibles that aren't affordable so that others get it at little to no cost. There needs to be something better and hopefully that's what's in the works. Do you agree obamecare cannot continue as it's going now?
     
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    Why should on group be responsible for paying the other group? Why? With the exception of the disabled and elderly. Health care needs to be more affordable so that all can get the coverage they need. It was always expensive but once the government was brought into the equation, it became even more expensive as we all know government doesn't run anything efficiently.
     
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    Who exactly is it that you don't want to pay for that doesn't pay?

    Right now everybody who can pay does pay.

    No you're dead wrong in that. The government made it better much better.

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    Lol.

    He can't wait to pay his penalty and stick has costs to everyone else.

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    How about a public system for all? Like that idea?

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    Everyone needs a government plan. There fixed it for you.
     

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