Late-term abortion & adoption

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Ronstar, Sep 25, 2015.

  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    There is no error except yours in insisting that late term abortions are the same as all abortions.

    Reasons are irrelevent....if it's illegal it's illegal. If it's legal it's legal.


    Legal late term abortions are done because of fetal abnormalities or the health of the woman.
     
  2. CKW

    CKW Well-Known Member

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    According to those links, late term abortions are done for the same reason an early abortion would be done. The abortions are simply done later. That is the reality. Apparently illegal abortions are rampant...based on the actual studies done. But if you have actual studies to show differently, then I'm waiting.
     
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    Abortion is legal until week 23. Just because SOME people think anything after 20 weeks is late term doesn't mean it is....

    Now , Anti-Choicers want to close accessible affordable clinics SO women have a harder time accessing affordable abortions which causes them to wait longer.
    Which is a way to FORCE women to give birth...that is sickening...



    NOW, IF you know that so many ILLEGAL abortions are being performed call the police and report them....
     
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    We both know illegal abortions are being preformed. Because I am sure you read the links.

    What is sickening....is that women are being brainwashed by others to think its ok to kill a baby that is obviously alive and moving within her. A human life that in a mere three or four months could be put up for adoption to a loving family. Mothers are being told by posts like yours...that its ok to do this.

    That entity kicking her innards, yawning, and sucking its thumb is nothing more then a large tumor.

    These late term abortions are done because the mother doesn't want it. They are not done for the "sake of the fetus" or because the "fetus is dead already", or "won't live when its born". Its done because the mother wants to kill it, get rid of it and cease having to deal with the problem.

    How sick is that?
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No woman who has a choice will wait until late term to have an abortion. A woman who has a choice chooses early in pregnancy. Both of your links indicate that ELECTIVE abortions performed after 20 weeks are largely because the woman was young and didn't know she was pregnant or had difficulty raising the money soon enough. Many of the TRAP regulations passed in recent years cause abortions to be performed later than they would have been. There are very few of those.

    In light of the Planned Parenthood attack videos released lately, I have been wondering why some people are so eager to believe the most horrendous stories about abortion. They actually WANT to believe the worst about women. I can understand that a few men have had bad experiences with women and therefore see them all as bad and evil. Why would any women embrace that attitude?
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is very simple. I believe that aborting a HEALTHY fetus that would be livable with medical technology, and is not dangerous to a woman's health is wrong. This is why I agree with Row/Wade limitations.

    And yet, I do not the danger of an early birth process which place the late term fetus in danger of never having a normal life. After all, I worked as a case manager, MSW with a population of developmentally disabled people and children, and while a child born with Down's Syndrome does have a chance to lead a good life, there are many other disabilities that are hell on earth, both for the child and for their family.
     
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    Still can't address my posts but ..


    YUPPERS! The fetus (or as you put it, the friggin child) does NOT get a say.........the woman it's in DOES.....

    No Pro-Choicer rammed anything...it is a fact you can't dispute, late term abortions can be legally done in the case of fetal abnormality or health of the woman.

    Abortions are performed in the interest of the person who is pregnant.....NOT YOUR interest, HERS....you'll have to live with that...
     
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    I think I agree. I see the mother- to- be as having presumptive 'power of attorney ', who's duty is to weigh not only the length of life, but the quality of that life when making health care decisions, and an abortion can work as a best way to end inevitable suffering the only result of which is a heavily compromised concept of life between surgeries.

    I truly believe most women take this decision ( congenital defects etc ) as one of the most agonizing and important that they will ever make. I am not sure some panel of government approved 'experts' in medicine and bioethics can do any better job, or a judge listening to their testimony in a vacumn.

    Very very few women are getting an second or third term abortion without considering the welfare of the fetus more than anyone else. Still, I do think there is a proper governmental roll to oversee potential abuse and to ask some tough questions because now that potential for life is getting mighty close to more, but I would be inclined to give great deference to the woman's view because she truly understands all the variables.

    Unless a woman is either a sociopath or complete narcissist, she is not deciding to abort that late so she can spend more time with her main squeeze or get that job promotion. She has already bonded and prepared to have that baby when the traumatic news arrives. I am not going to second guess very readily.

    It is a little more complicated when serious drug use has already shown her judgement and sense of perspective is impaired . I am not as prone to give a crack addict that late term abortion without a more circumspect judicial review.
     
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    I don't see anything about post viability abortion in there.

    BTW, here's what happens when you deny women abortion:

    http://io9.com/5958187/what-happens...his-is-the-first-scientific-study-to-find-out
     
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    Wow. Promoting you give your child up for adoption instead of killing it.....is sickening to you. Well, there ya go. I think we have a clear hatred and contempt for children. I think the word for that is Misopedia.
     
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    Nope, no hatred or contempt for children - I care enough about them to feel they shouldn't be pawned off on others to raise. I'd rather see them not brought into the world than given away like an unwanted puppy or not raised properly.
     
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    And what is it when YOU called it a "FRIGGIN CHILD" ? Respect? Love?


    NO "child " is killed in abortion and ONLY those who want to mislead with emotion rather than logic, science, and facts call it that.
     
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    Wow. Wanting women to be nothing but brood animals is sickening. Well, there ya go. I think there's a clear hatred and contempt for women. I KNOW the word for that is misogynist.
     
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    You'd rather see them dead in other words...
     
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    No, I'd rather see them not born at all than forced to be born by those with "control issues".
     
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    Just because the baby is not born doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
     
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    It doesn't exist as a "baby" until it's born....oh, and I never said it didn't exist.....
     
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    You'd rather see women die from illegal abortion....
     
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    Or women could just NOT get an abortion,

    not when it's a perfectly normal healthy pregnancy and nothing's wrong with the fetus.

    Women can die of legal abortion too, or sometimes just a normal pregnancy can suddenly turn dangerous out of the blue in some cases. It's not common though. Contrary to the perception pro-choicers are trying to create, there were never that many women who died from illegal abortions.
    http://afterabortion.org/2011/the-truth-about-back-alley-abortions/
     
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    Late term abortions only occur when the health of the mother or the baby is severely impacted. As for the adoption versus abortion (early term) issue, these are choices. Both have distinct advantages and disadvantages.
     
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    We've already covered that and its false. Women mainly have late-term abortions because they put it off. Studies show that clearly.
     
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    It is NOT false....a woman can have a (REAL) late term abortion if her health is threatened or the fetus has health issues....their REASON is irrelevant...
     

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