Legalizing marijuana

How do you prove it ? You show a single documented case.... that's all. Plenty of other things are " addictive" , and it usually has more to do with the user than the substance.

 

Treat it just like alcohol and we're golden. Same driving laws apply. Show up for work lit up, good bye. Sell it, tax it, love it. I personally never smoked and never will, but its no more harmful then beer or a shot. As for medical uses, personally its a bunch of B.S. No business should be forced hire someone if they claim they need weed to do their job. Weed isn't the only cure for whatever you've got. For old retired people, who cares. 7-11's around the country should see a bump in profit=)

 

Lets step back though- you were raging about people who abuse medical marijuana- I was pointing out that people abuse 'medical' viagra- as a recreational drug. Now you say you only care when the recreational drug is an intoxicant.

I find cigarette smoke annoying, but I don't demand that the government forbid people from smoking cigarettes. That you find it more annoying is a personal issue to you.

Treat pot exactly the same way as we treat alcohol and cigarettes. I have yet to see a well reasoned argument why that would not be a better policy than what we do now.

 

Then you are admitting that you are closed minded- that you will not examine the facts and will never examine the facts.

 

So your mind is closed and you are not here to debate but to pontificate. Thanks for the clarification and enjoy your closed mind. I am off to find those interested in debate.

 

nope. I can't get fired from my job because I was out drinking.... Drinking and driving, yes.... but not just out drinking

I don't. I'd rather see cigs outlawed than MJ legalized.


and if they outlawed alcohol.... I'd survive. If you can't live without any of the 3, you have failed in the "not addicted" part.

this is the RRAAGGEEEEE!!!!111 I love to see... bwahahahahahaha


It's funny when a conservative admits his one hypocrisy over an issue a liberal supports.... you get upset. but turn a blind eye to hypocrisy after hypocrisy the left does everyday concerning issues like racism, homosexuality... health care... min wage....

 

which is why I love watching the abuse cost a pothead.



Funny, knowing what's at risk by smoking it...losing your job, preventing you from future employment that's worth anything, etc, doesn't prevent you from putting weed over the welfare of your family.


My priorities are

God
family
self
country

in that order


for potheads... it seems to be

self
weed
family

in that order. Very telling

 

What a prince among men! You value a fantasy book over your family, wonderful. I assume you abstain from alcohol due to the impact it can have on your family and work life...?

 

bwahahaha, crack on my faith all you want... it won't shake it, or me.


I don't have to abstain from it because partaking in it won't risk my job (family well-being)

if it were to become illegal tomorrow.... I'd quit drinking. My family is more important to me than trying to get my next buzz or getting high. Apparently, you don't value your family's welfare over your addictions


so selfish....

 

oh, so you partake and just attack others for doing the same.. I see, let me guess.. conservative?

 

I dont smoke, can not because of work... you dont think your kids watching you drink has any impact on them ? You cant stop drinking alcohol in front of your children ?

 

Hard to take you seriously on points of morality when you in a previous debate were unapologetic on your assertion that "I'd date (read, hit it and quit it) provacative and up". So using a woman for sex then discarding her is all good but those pot smokers are selfish!!! That's some fuzzy morality there.

But God is #1... leaves me wondering what God you follow... please tell me so I can avoid it.

 

You are absolutely right. Unfortunately the liberals, including the ones posing as conservative libertarians, don't see the abuse and addiction factor behind this substance. I know people who abuse marijuana and have become so addicted to it that it's affecting their well being as productive citizens. The pro-legalization crowd cries about getting the government off their backs, but the potheads are right there with the welfare queens taking from the government and costing the taxpayers more money.

God, family, self, and country. That's what America is all about, and what it will continue to be about; however, if the libs get their way it will be like what the potheads' view of America is, which is their weed addiction and themselves first.

 

Saw a segment on tv news about changing attitudes in Colorado regarding pot. Showed a private art gallery show. Denvers high society gathered, fancy wines and appetizers and people smoking pot. Cant smoke cigarettes any where in the building but smoking a joint is just fine.

 

I don't partake in anything illegal. My family's well being (relying on me keeping a job) is more important to me than smoking a fatty because it's just so cool looking....

 

So if no one could get fired for smoking pot, you would suddenly be ok with pot?

What if your job does allow it?

Good to see you're an equal opportunity authoritarian.

What about people who drink too much caffeine? I'd be interested in knowing exactly how tightly you would like to regulate people's lives.

I guess as long as it is something you do not use personally you are ok denying it to everyone else huh?

Not sure where you got the idea it is rage...I am not the one using exclamation points and lots of caps. I have no reason to rage...the law already supports me. You seem to be the one who is annoyed, because people are passing laws you don't like.

What makes you think I am upset? I voted for pot legalization here in Denver, and got it twice. I got what I wanted.

 

Yep, the hypocrisy is rampant. Tobacco is addictive; and for the record, I am all for banning cigarette smoking in restaurants and other public places. The second-hand smoke is annoying and harmful to others. Funny how many of the pro-marijuana people agree with the restrictions on tobacco, but by gosh, nobody had better restrict or outlaw their cannabis.

 

That is called schadenfreude. And it is kinda sad.

Whats at risk? It's legal here in Denver. Looks like it will be legal in lots of places in the near future. It must be very frustrating to be powerless to stop people from doing stuff you don't approve of.

 

Yeah, about that...

I don't. I think business owners should be the ones to decide if they want to allow it or not.

 

Didn't you just list yourself as more important than your country in Post #57?

If so, is it reasonable to assume you might not have all that much respect for the law over yourself if it is something you think you are entitled to do?

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So you drink? Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

I am guessing you would not be too happy if it were made illegal then?

 

I'm not denying that one bit.... I won't lose any sleep over your attempt to look down upon me in judgement....

the risk is when people choose to risk their jobs, livelihood, family well-being over anything. This applies equally to illegal drugs like pot, dui's, gambling... etc.


it doesn't bother me about someone's doing something I don't like..... I don't like when people cheer for tyhe Gators in football.... I can get over that part of any issue.


What concerns the values in America. the "damn my family, I'm going to do something that is illegal because it's all about MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!11"


It's just very telling of you, and them, that Weed ranks above family.

 

entitled.... everyone thinks they are entitled to anything they feel.


Weed is not constitutionally protected.... so I'm not going to fight to the death protesting a law of something I don't believe is a God-given right.

 

The only thing I judged you for is hypocrisy.

You do know there are lots of functional pot users out there, right? In the same way that not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.

It sure seems to based on your posts here. You seem to get a great deal of pleasure in the idea that someone who is doing something you don't like will suffer for it.

You don't care about America that much...it is at the bottom of your priorities according to your list. Below yourself. You are the one who posted that, not me.

 

Unless it affects someone else, yeah, they are. Why is that a bad thing?

Neither is drinking or smoking or your marriage. So what? Only things in the Constitution should be allowed?

 

Perception often does not reflect reality. I think if every pot smoker were to come out of the closet that the opposition would pass out from shock. Its easy to label pot smokers as moral degenerates... but when its your lawyer... pilot... tax broker... Church member... etc... it changes everything. Labeling pot smokers as some sort of moral degenerate is like saying everyone who consume alcoholic in an alcoholic.

A true story... I quit smoking back in 1987. To this day I still as a man have my long hair... much to my Christian conservative father's chagrin. He gives me grief for my long hair and showers my Christian Conservative short haired 6 figure earning brother with praise. What the old man does not know is that my brother has smoked pot... LOTS of it! I quit in 1987 and as of 2003 my brother was still a periodic pot smoker. I do not talk to my brother much any more and cannot say whether he is still smoking up... but it would not surprise me it he were. But one last twist of the knife... my brother was an IV drug user (I never used a needle). But as he is a Christian conservative, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck people love him. But if his dirty little secrets were to ever see the light of day his reputation would take quite a beating.

My point is lots of people smoke pot and hide it from others... respected people... rich people... religious people... people who you would never expect of smoking up. So those who say that smoking pot makes one some sort of moral degenerate... well enjoy your delusion. Perhaps you still believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy...