Lesbian couple attacked in London

The suspects have already been arrested, and released on bail.

The police and the media's silence as to their identities is deafening.

 

Muslims.

 

The silence tells the tale.

 

Thread backfire.

 

Pastor Steven Anderson of faithful word Baptist Church in Tempe Arizona preaches that gays should be executed.

 

I absolutely am not, I don't hold that value, in fact I reject it.

This isn't about Jesus. It's about Leviticus.

 

There is only one Leviticus. Islam and Christianity uses it. And I gave you a link to a Christian pastor that most certainly does advocate for the killing of gays based on the text I referenced.

Again pastor Steven Anderson

 

Well, that's true - IF the Church was operating under the Law of Moses. Problem is, Christians are supposed to be operating under the Laws of Christ. I guess this pastor didn't get the memo.

If you wanna get technical, the Jews are still supposed to be operating under the Laws of Moses, but since they don't have a Temple at the moment, even THEY aren't operating under their own laws right now. Then again, we have a Jew on this board who loves cheeseburgers, so there is that.

 

Couldn't even quote me with this huh?

Leviticus is absolutely part of Christan text. It is precisely that text which pastor Steven Anderson references when he says that gays should be exterminated and it's the exact same text Islam uses to justify exterminating gays.

So I fail to see the fail.

 

well, I understand different Christians have different beliefs. My only point is that pastor Anderson is a Christian preacher and he references this Christian text.

Further, I have pointed out that Leviticus is the old testament and Christianity is a new covenant. People who reference Leviticus point out that Christ said he didn't come here to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Meaning the law still stands. So he would say what memo. There was no memo.

 

Thing is, that law held UNTIL Jesus came by and said stuff like "Whoever is without sin, throw the first stone," and suchlike. He also said not one part of the law shall fall until all is accomplished - which happened when He died on the cross.

I don't really think this pastor read the New Testament that much. Heck, even the OLD Testament - there's this part about desiring mercy and not sacrifice, something like that.

 

Yeah, the only ways they identified them was male and ages 15-18

 

Yeah. Even the victims haven't said anything - it's sort of strange. If they're underage you'd maybe expect the cops to keep mum but the press - ? The women - ?

I'll have absolutely NO problem admitting my suspicions are wrong if they are - I'm no prophet - but the fact that the press isn't saying anything about the perps strongly suggests they're part of a class they'd rather not talk about when it comes to being perps.

 

are you sure that is what he meant by all? I would think it was accomplished after revolutions. Am I wrong? Did Jesus not tell if a second coming?

I think he just takes different parts of it at different levels of seriousness than you do.

 

"It is Finished" - could be read as "Accomplished" - meaning the work of salvation. Now you don't need the Law, you need the spirit of it, you need faith, you need Christ in whom the laws and the prophets are fulfilled. Now the only thing left to do is physically reclaim the Earth from Satan - which would be what is described in Revelations.

 

Only one is under age.

I have no problem admitting I was wrong to suspect that they were Islamic. My reasons for suspecting this is grounded in knowledge and not prejudice, which is what I was making clear with the comment that Christianity has the same text that inspires Islamic homophobia.

 

I could argue salvation won't be finished until revolutions

According to you, but not Anderson not a lot of Christians.

How do I know you are right?

If there is something left to do it isn't finished.

 

All you need in order TO be saved was accomplished on the Cross 2000 years ago. That's a different and separate thing from reclaiming the Earth.

I guess you don't. You'd have to look to the Bible for answers there. I can point the way but ultimately you must put your faith in God and not (a) man.

Like I said, salvation is finished - history is not.

 

Yes, damn them and their lethal snake dances!

 

I actually very much appreciate that, but if it's open to interpretation then one can absolutely say the pastor Anderson is Christian, because he read the Bible and got the message he preaches. I don't agree with it I don't think many Christians do but it is biblically supported. That was the only point I was making. I didn't mean to get into any existential discussion about who's right or who's wrong.

so at this point no more people can never be saved?

 

No one cares about their race or eye color, but their beliefs are important and may be a contributing factor to the crime.

 

And all beliefs are not the same.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...se-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

Islam, like any other ideology, has a strict belief system. It has nothing to do with the color of anyone's skin.

 

No, i said it on this very thread, and in fact you quoted what I said. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

 

And since there are no lectures on "Islamophobia" from the politicians, police and media, the identity of the culprits seems to be clear.

 

how many has the cross burning kkk killed?

what about the Christian that shot up a black church recently

sadly extremists are sometimes violent, of many religions and sometimes they even have no religion