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Liberals Love Trump's Tax Plan... When Told It's Bernie Sanders' Plan

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by HB Surfer, Oct 20, 2017.

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    True, the left can think, and I think that they think that Trump can't think.
     
    ibobbrob, Oct 22, 2017
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    As I said, I can't help you if you think that the economic response to who is in the congress/WH is immediate.
    So, let me ask you this question directly again:
    If the GOP would have retained the congress in 2007, would there have been no great recession?
    And please be honest.
     
    Quantum Nerd, Oct 22, 2017
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  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    How about you address what actually happened and what I posted first to refute the false claims which you have failed to do. Would we have faced a slowdown perhaps would it have gone into a recession perhaps, but that's all conjecture. Its what actually happened that we are discussing or at least I am trying but you keep ignoring the facts.
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 22, 2017
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    Not a chance...........
     
    Deno, Oct 22, 2017
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  5. gc17

    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe parents are the culprits here most depending on the education system to 'enlighten' their kids. Like the old song lyric' teach your children well'.
     
    gc17, Oct 22, 2017
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    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which proves you can't fix stupid.
     
    gc17, Oct 22, 2017
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  7. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    47.4 billion in 2015 for military budget
    76 billion on higher education 2013
    74 billion in food stamps 2015
    1 trillion in total welfare for 2014, but what, who, does that cover and how much can you make? Why aren't businesses required to pay living wages? What would help the population to start making a wage or salary that allows them to live? How much would that be in a year? Solutions are never talked about. It's always how can we give more away.
     
    Chester_Murphy, Oct 22, 2017
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    Howard Stern once quizzed a bunch of Republicans in a similar fashion. So what? All it proves is that some Americans are idiots.
     
    KAMALAYKA, Oct 22, 2017
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  9. KAMALAYKA

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    It's peculiar how conservatives pit themselves against science and universities. Says a lot.
     
    KAMALAYKA, Oct 22, 2017
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  10. Mac-7

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    You nean make them pay illegal aliens a living wage so they can send more money back to mexico?

    Wage and price controls are a bad idea

    Build the wall and require employers to access E-Verify when hiring

    And restrict the H1B visa program to only the most essential applicants and Americans will have more jobs and higher pay
     
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  11. KAMALAYKA

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    Illegals paid over $1 billion in federal taxes last year.
     
    KAMALAYKA, Oct 22, 2017
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    Those jobs should have gone to Americans instead of illegals and then the wages taxes paid would stay in the family
     
    Mac-7, Oct 22, 2017
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    Again: "Paste up a few examples." I will be happy to address them.
     
    Ddyad, Oct 22, 2017
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    Yes, a big advantage for Trump.
     
    Ddyad, Oct 22, 2017
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    Most unskilled jobs are not worth a living wage.
     
    Ddyad, Oct 22, 2017
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    Tell that to the people who hire cheap labor.

    Maybe now you understand why we evil Democrats support worker unions and government oversight on employment practices.
     
    KAMALAYKA, Oct 22, 2017
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    Yes, what actually happened was that the GOP had control of the WH and the house for 2 years, and full control of the WH and congress for 4 years, until 2007. One year later the bottom fell out of the economy. How you can pin this on Democrats is beyond me. Bush and his GOP congress had enough time to prevent the debt bubble from bowing up. They didn't because they wanted the good economic news for the present rather than preventing the economic meltdown in the future.

    Trump and cohort are going to do the exact same thing. Just watch.
     
    Quantum Nerd, Oct 22, 2017
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    Huh. I wasn't aware that Rex Tillerson is a liberal.
     
    KAMALAYKA, Oct 22, 2017
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    Of course he is a liberal. Tillerson was a corporate CEO.
     
    Ddyad, Oct 22, 2017
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    Then the cost of living is too high and wealth should be moved from top to bottom. Isn't that what libs have been saying? Of course it is. Arrogance is standing in the way of greed.
     
    Chester_Murphy, Oct 22, 2017
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    The potential employers who have most of the low skilled jobs that need to be done are members of the working class. They cannot afford to pay more than what the work is actually worth - very little.
     
    Ddyad, Oct 22, 2017
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    Government has to do its job which involves stopping illegal aliens at the border to dry up the illégal labor pool

    And at the same time reform welfare to deny free stuff to able bofied citizens
     
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    WOW!!! 1 billion out of 3.31 TRILLION, I'm impressed. The cost to have these illegals is far more than the 1 billion in taxes you say they pay. How many are on welfare or in prison? In California alone illegals cost more than 1 billion. Nice try, not really.
     
    gc17, Oct 22, 2017
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    He did not mention that illegal aliens qualify for the EITC tax credit and often get back more than they pay in
     
    Mac-7, Oct 22, 2017
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    Doesn't fit his narrative. He's already surrendered.
     
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