Magnitude of Trump adviser Flynn's Russia scandal gains clarity

Prove the claim then.

You you do that?

No, you cant.

And you know it.

 

Well, golly. It is just so hard to try to figure out which Fake News you guys are talking about at any one time.

• Are you referring to the Fake News that Flynn had telephone conversations with the Russian Ambassador? I thought you guys accepted that as True News.
• Are you referring to the Fake News that Flynn discussed sanctions with the Russian Ambassador? That was what the FBI reported to the White House.
• Are you referring to the Fake News that the Russians hacked the DNC servers and passed the emails on to wikileaks? That was why Obama placed sanctions on the Russians.

So, which Fake News are you talking about this time.


Perhaps you are talking about the Not Yet Proven Fake News that Trump instructed Flynn to talk to the Russian Ambassador about the Sanctions and then told Flynn to tell Pence that he didn't so that Trump could send Pence out on the talk shows to state that Flynn didn't talk about sanctions and then got caught when the FBI informed him that they had transcripts of Flynn talking to the Russian Ambassador about sanctions and were concerned that Flynn could be the subject of blackmail by Russians for lying about it which caused Trump to fire Flynn.

That Fake News?

 

Yes, is "Not Yet Proven" - made up - Fake News.

 

1. Was never disputed, and we didn't care that he did. A government agent talked with an invited ambassador of another nation ...wowwwww ...wowww.

2. Was never disputed, and we didn't care that he did. A government agent talked with an invited ambassador of another nation ...wowwwww ...wowww.

3. Was never proven. A 3rd party company, paid by the Democrats, analyzed hardware and logs that were subsequently destroyed before any federal investigators got their hands on them. All we ever had was this mythical "report" that WaPo claimed it had seen but never showed anybody to this day. Never did prove that Russia to wikileaks connection either. Obama's sanctions were just there to (*)(*)(*)(*) on Trump's well known intent to improve relations with Russia.

Furthermore the fake news Leftist media claim that Flynn was negotiation a deal and getting paid to do it, that he somehow had any inappropriate or illegal contact, that he wasn't allowed to speak to the Russian ambassador or any of the other people on his call sheet, that he went rogue, that he was secretly working on Trump's order to "pay Russia back", and so on, and so on.

You guys have nothing.

 

That's why the Trump administration has begged the FBI to publicly discredit the investigations right?

 

And again I point out that you are setting up a false dichotomy here, asserting that the leaks are politically motivated rather than done to combat the illegality of the Trump administrations actions and expose their lies.

 

Today they are blaming the WH leaks on Kellyanne Conway.

 

Sorry, please spell out exactly what you want proved. That Trump blamed the firing on the fake news media perhaps?

 

If you don't know then you're not informed and should go read up before addressing the subject.

I'll still be here when you're ready, let me know.

 

Is Mccain an ally of Trump's in your estimation?

 

What the conversation amounted to was leaked go back back and read reporting, the Russian ambassador asked about sanctions, Flynn told him they should not overreact. No promises were made about anything. Seems prudent to me. He should have been more forth coming with the VP about it no matter how inconsequential.

 

There was no illegal action and of course it was politically motivated. Trump acted decisively and it's over, he's not like Obama who would never fire anyone or admonish for such egregious acts. Time to move on.

 

So you have not seen the transcripts. Why pretend.

 

It is not FAKE NEWS if no one is reporting it!

Show me a MSM report that asserts "Trump instructed Flynn to talk to the Russian Ambassador about the Sanctions".

Will that come out sometime in the future? I believe it will.
Will the MSM report on it at that time? I believe it will.
Will it be FAKE NEWS at that time? No.

In the interim, please show some FAKE NEWS that the MSM reported.

 

Have the transcripts of these conversations that were shared with the MSM been released t the public? No? Then there is no evidence to support any of the assertions by the MSM regarding what was said.

The MSM is now properly viewed by virtually all Americans as nothing more than the biased house organ of the corrupt political establishment - the MSM is simply incredible.

Fake News now defines the MSM. For instance:

“January 20: The Great MLK Jr. Bust Controversy

On January 20, Time reporter Zeke Miller(*)wrote(*)that a bust of Martin Luther King Jr. had been removed from the White House. This caused a flurry of controversy on social media until Miller issued a correction. As Time(*)put it,(*)Miller had apparently not even asked anyone in the White House if the bust had been removed. He simply assumed it had been because “he had looked for it and had not seen it.”

http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/

 

That is an unsubstantiated assertion on your part. More to the point, it is FAKE. It is not the Government's job to prove it to your satisfaction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/russian-hacking-trump/510689/

Updated on January 7, 2017

In a “declassified version of a highly classified assessment” released on Friday January 6, the U.S. intelligence community laid out its judgment that “Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election,” with the specific goal of harming Hillary Clinton’s “electability and potential presidency.” The report went on: “We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.”

These conclusions had previously been reported, based accounts anonymous intelligence officials gave to various news outlets. The January 6 intelligence assessment was the first time the Office of the Director of National Intelligence had detailed them officially in public.

The release came a day after Senator John McCain, the Arizona Republican who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, said at a hearing on foreign cyberthreats to the United States: “Every American should be alarmed by Russia’s attacks on our nation.”​

Do you think you should have access to the classified version?

Show me where the MSM reported that Flynn was getting paid to negotiate a deal.

Don't dodge and tell me to look it up myself. You made the assertion, you back it up.

 

Is this really the best you can do?

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...use-in-statement-about-false-mlk-bust-report/

Tré Goins-Phillips Jan 24, 2017 6:30 pm
Time editor hits White House in statement about false MLK bust report

Time magazine editor Nancy Gibbs is calling out President Donald Trump’s administration for suggesting one of the outlet’s correspondents “deliberately” published an erroneous report that a bust of Martin Luther King, Jr., had been removed form the Oval Office.

“No news organization ever wants to make an error, but we all have procedures for handling them when we do,” Gibbs wrote in a statement published Tuesday afternoon.

Sean Spicer ✔ @PressSec
Thanks to White House Chief of Staff for this wonderful picture of the MLK bust in the oval
8:50 PM - 20 Jan 2017

Here’s what happened: Zeke Miller, Time’s White House correspondent, incorrectly reported on Inauguration Day that the bust of Martin Luther King had been removed from the Oval Office. Soon after, he corrected himself, but the information had already made its way into pool reports.

Miller took to Twitter to issue an apology to the White House.

Zeke Miller ✔ [MENTION=383]Zeke[/MENTION]JMiller
Correction: The MLK bust is still in the Oval Office. It was obscured by an agent and door.
8:14 PM - 20 Jan 2017
Zeke Miller ✔ [MENTION=383]Zeke[/MENTION]JMiller
Tweeting again: wh aide confirms the MLK bust is still there. I looked for it in the oval 2x & didn't see it. My apologies to my colleagues
8:41 PM - 20 Jan 2017

Sean Spicer ✔ @PressSec
Apology accepted https://twitter.com/zekejmiller/status/822620050653937664 …

Zeke Miller ✔ [MENTION=383]Zeke[/MENTION]JMiller
.@PressSec This is on me, not my colleagues. I've been doing everything I can to fix my error. My apologies.
8:56 PM - 20 Jan 2017



However, speaking to staff at the Central Intelligence Agency on Saturday, the president attacked Miller, claiming he purposefully spread a bogus report that the bust had been removed.

“So Zeke, Zeke from Time magazine writes this story about ‘I took down’ — I would never do that because I have great respect for Dr. Martin Luther King,” Trump said. “But this is how dishonest the media is. Now big story, the retraction was like, where? Was it a line or do they even bother putting it in?”

And White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer accused the Time writer of “deliberately false reporting” about Trump’s first day as president.

After repeated attacks on Miller from the White House, Gibbs is not taking the attack lightly.

“The president and White House aides have cited this mistake as an example of ‘deliberately false reporting,'” she wrote. “It was no such thing. We regret that the error occurred, and believe it is important to share some detail about how it happened.”

Gibbs explained that Miller published the inaccurate report, believing the MLK bust had been removed when it was actually just out of sight.

“I should not have allowed unconfirmed information to end up in a pool report,” Zeke says. Within minutes, when inquiries began to come in about the missing bust, Zeke reviewed videos and wire photos, and tried to find a member of the White House staff who could answer whether the bust had been moved. He found an aide who went into the office to check and texted Zeke at 8:10 p.m. that the bust was there.
“I did all I could to correct the record,” Miller said, “and I apologize to my colleagues, the president and anyone misinformed by my mistake.”​

• A mistake was made.
• Multiple retractions were made.
• Spicer acknowledged it was an error: Sean Spicer ✔ @PressSec Apology accepted
• Then, the Trump Administration blew it up out of proportion.
• the president attacked Miller, claiming he purposefully spread a bogus report that the bust had been removed.
• And then Spicer did a 180 -Sean Spicer accused the Time writer of “deliberately false reporting” about Trump’s first day as president.

What is FAKE is Trump's outrage. Trump's outrage, and the subsequent coverage it got, was just a deliberate attempt on His part to discredit the press to his sheeples. Sadly, you guys just eat this up.

 

Thank you for admitting the story of the removal of the MLK bust was indeed Fake News. Here is another example of MSM Fake News:

“December 1: The 27-Cent Foreclosure

At Politico on December 1, Lorraine Woellert published a shocking essay claiming that Trump’s pick for secretary of the Treasury, Steve Mnuchin, had overseen a company that “foreclosed on a 90-year-old woman after a 27-cent payment error.” According to Woellert: “After confusion over insurance coverage, a OneWest subsidiary sent [Ossie] Lofton a bill for $423.30. She sent a check for $423. The bank sent another bill, for 30 cents. Lofton, 90, sent a check for three cents. In November 2014, the bank foreclosed.”

The story received widespread coverage, being shared nearly 17,000 times on Facebook. The New York Times’s Steven Rattner shared it on Twitter (1,300 retweets), as did NBC News’s Brad Jaffy (1,200 retweets), the AP’s David Beard (1,900 retweets) and many others.

The problem? The central scandalous claims of Woellert’s article were simply untrue. As the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Ted Frank(*)pointed out,(*)the woman in question was never foreclosed on, and never lost her home. Moreover, “It wasn’t Mnuchin’s bank that brought the suit.”

Politico eventually corrected these serious and glaring errors. But the damage was done: the story had been repeated by numerous media outlets including(*)Huffington Post(*)(shared 25,000 times on Facebook), the(*)New York Post,(*)Vanity Fair,(*)and many others.”

http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/

 

Have you a link from any MSM saying they have the transcripts of the conversation?

 

IOW, you have not even bothered to read the MSM leaks. Good decision - you avoided a lot of Fake News.


“The United States is much better off without Michael Flynn serving as national security adviser. But no one should be cheering the way he was brought down….”

“Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.” REUTERS, America's spies anonymously took down Michael Flynn. That is deeply worrying, BY Carlos Barria,
February 14, 2017

http://theweek.com/articles/680068/...-took-down-michael-flynn-that-deeply-worrying

 

That link just repeats what you are saying with no evidence from any MSM saying that they have the transcripts. Who have these transcripts?

 

Read again:

"leaking anonymously to newspapers the content of classified phone intercepts".

 

And again I'll ask, Which newspapers? Surely you must have a link to a newspaper that has stated that they were given the transcript of the phone intercepts?

You are just repeating the Chinese whisper that Trump started

 

Read again:

“The United States is much better off without Michael Flynn serving as national security adviser. But no one should be cheering the way he was brought down….”

“Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.” REUTERS, America's spies anonymously took down Michael Flynn. That is deeply worrying, BY Carlos Barria,
February 14, 2017

http://theweek.com/articles/680068/...-took-down-michael-flynn-that-deeply-worrying

Which MSM outlets do you think Reuters is referring too? Have you even been following this story?

If not, start by reading David Ignatius who mad public the leaked signals intelligence.

 

Er, Reuters photographer, Carlos Barria, was being given credit for providing the photo, nothing more! YOU added Reuters in capital letters to make fake evidence. The author of the article is Damon Linker.

No one is denying that the secret agencies leaked that Flynn lied. BUT, again I ask, which newspapers state they have the transcripts?