Major Study Finds Masks Don’t Reduce COVID-19 Infection Rates <<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    They aren't rated--that's the point. Even their website says so. They aren't trying to pull a fast one.
     
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    Not an insult when it is the truth.
     
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    Being anything that is approved by the government just goes to show that they want to control what you use and don't use.

    None of the masks work as advertised or this virus would not be spreading as it does, these masks would eliminate it. But that doesn't fit with what you have been told to promote.
     
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    By the way, if a filter is not listed for Organic Vapors, is it not capable of trapping a virus and the ones you recommend are only to be used for particulates, not organic vapors.
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    The filters on my respirator are properly rated and properly tested.

    3M 6001

    Specifications
    Accessories Yes
    Brand 3M™
    Particulate Protection Organic Vapor
    Product Type Cartridge Protection Focus
    Organic Vapors Protection Type

    Organic Vapor Purpose Cartridges & Filters

    Recommended Application Assembly and Mechanical, Batch-Charging, Change-Overs, Chemical Clean-up, Chemical Dispensing, Clean-up, Cleaning, Composite Finishing, Final Finish, Maintenance, Paint Preparation, Painting, Parts Cleaning, Seal Coatings, Welding
    Recommended Industry Construction, Design & Construction, Facility Sanitation, Food Processing, Food Safety, General Manufacturing, Heavy Infrastructure, Industrial Maintenance, Marine, Metal Production & Fabrication, Mining, Oil & Gas, Transportation
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    Silicone Faceseal Yes
    Six-point Head Harness Yes
    Spare Parts Yes
    Speaking Diaphragm Yes
    Standards/Approvals Organic Vapors

    And by the way my respirator is much more comfortable to wear versus a mask as it is designed to be wiped with alcohol to sanitize it and protect me from what others are exhaling and with an Exhalation Valve doesn't doesn't restrict my exhalation keeping my asthma under control, with a mask I would be hitting an inhaler many more times a day than I already do.

    Also unlike a mask it has inhalation check valves.

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    These are very important, should I inhale particles containing a virus or a virus itself, that check valve prevents me from discharging anything trapped in the filters when I exhale, which could cause me to contaminate any area or person near me as I move around breathing, masks cannot do that, making the person wearing one a vector for virus's, as such that person literally becomes a mobile virus spraying machine.

    So truth be told if one wants to protect themselves and sort of protect others the only way to do it is by wearing a properly designed respirator, equipped with the proper filters, they are not that expensive what so ever, anything less is dangerous virtue signalling and being quite heartless to others.
     
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    Not to mention that mask is more expensive than the properly engineered respirator I purchased and with the proper filters it was only $37.00 and the filters can be replaced as often as needed.

    Our government in their usual stupidity advises people to wash masks and reuse them which is some stuck on stupid advice, every time a mask is washed it becomes less effective at filtration, masks are designed to be worn no longer than 8 hours and then disposed properly and that means into a bio-hazard waste container.
     
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    That's not an insult, it's a polite recommendation.
     
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    And they are least concerned when it comes to peoples health, they see every crisis as an opportunity to grab more control over people and not help them.

    I think it was Regan who commented, the scariest words a person can hear are "I'm from the government and I am here to help you."

    But at least they are consistent, everything they get involved becomes so effed up it isn't funny or workable anymore.

    Everyone has a right to own a home, they effed that up.

    Everyone has a right to health care, they effed that up.

    Everything they get involved in just gets worse, never better, which is a good reason to keep then out of our lives.
     
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    So you now admit that you where not truthful when you claimed they are N-95 rated.

    Real nice and you accuse me of proffering untrue information, after which you admit to actually having done so.

    Wow, talk about peeing your reputability down the drain. .
     
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    Walmart yes, your car no. Unless you're filling your car with strangers.

    This is about the difference between essential and non-essential. Very few people NEED to fly. Everyone needs to go out and buy food.
     
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    Id let someone with covid cough in my face. I'm in my 30s, never get sick, I don't smoke and am in great shape. I'm pretty much going to be asymptomatic or have a mild case.
     
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    Or maybe it just ran it's seasonal course as diseases do and all of that did nothing or made it worse.
     
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    You Trumpers are going through a rough patch. :(
     
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    High quality PPE protects doctors and nurses caring for COVID-19 patients every day, across the country.
     
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    You're projecting.
     
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    Rather reckless, frankly.
     
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    I said they performed as well as N95 respirators in tests. Consider yourself corrected about my remarks.
     
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    You lack the understanding of N-95 testing by a reputable and traceable source, as such you foolishness and lack of any real knowledge about the subject is dismissed with prejudice.

    The product you proffered is no where on any approved list of masks therefor it is to be considered counterfeit and not worth the materials it is made from and definately should never be worn by anyone concerned about their health.

    Maybe you should go back to proffering snake oil or some other magic cure you believe in.

    End of conversation with you.
     
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    The very fact that this thread even exists is proof positive that we are sooooooooooo living in the wrong timeline.
     
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    I cannot find this quote from any of my posts: "Why are you misleading people about P100 respirators?"

    Did I miss one or is this just an inadvertent error?
     
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    Test it. Exhale a vape through the thing and see what comes out.
    Beyond that, no goggles = not safe.
     
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    Baloney. Once significant election fraud is discovered the count is no longer credible.
    Everyone knows that elections in our DP ruled urban Hell Holes are rigged, just like the DP's primary elections and it's nomination process.

    “As long as I count the Votes, what are you going to do about it. say?” William M. “Boss” Tweed.
     
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    You just reinforce the meaning of assume.

    Not only is who I voted for not the point of this discussion, even though you assume who it was.

    Can I assume that YOU voted for Hitler, or just his clone Biden? I, in truth, have no way of knowing just as you of the intolerant left have no idea who I voted for but continue to make claims with what you assume are insults.

    Some day you really should learn how to debate if you insist on bring down the level of discussion in this forum.
     
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    Actual proof of your statement would be nice since no one here takes your word for anything.
     
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    A medical expert made a good point this morning, we should be rating the efficacy of masks.
     

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