Marchers ask Trump to ‘liberate’ Hong Kong

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  1. Jeannette

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    What you're saying is that any nation threatening our economic supremacy is an enemy, when we're the ones that becomes their enemy to retain our supremacy.

    As for cheap trinkets, do you have any idea what you'd be paying for goods without China? I recall a time when I would pay $60 for something that costs $20 today - and that was a time when $60 was a weeks wage.

    This doesn't mean we shouldn't be readjusting our economic system and trade relations, but there has to be a lot of thought behind it unless you want a revolution.
     
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    Are you saying that those nations should put their lives on the line to benefit Washington at their own expense? The only reason Russia is an enemy is because Washington want's them to be an enemy, so they can pad the pockets of the military industrial complex.

    Every military build up by Russia has been a direct response to a build up by Nato.



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    Huh?
     
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    They should have thrown out the NGO's years ago,. I wonder how much they're paying the anarchists?
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/asia/hong-kong-protests-intl-hnk/index.html
     
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    you can criticize ccp etc in public like in movie theater/restaurant etc with friends/coworker, and no big issues. it only become an issue if it get alot attention like 100's thousands. also its highly depend on topic, change government to democracy/free election is a No NO. environment/corruption etc is ok.
     
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    not sure what the protester are thinking. target private store and beating bystander is not a good way to get other Hkonger support their cause. soon ppl who make a living/has job gonna fed up with the disruption to their live hood. and its hard for other country to support them if they continue using petrol bomb/vandalizing private/public properties.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/22/asia/hong-kong-protest-violence-intl-hnk/index.html

     

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    You would have to elaborate more.

    All I remember was back in the late 1970's X-Governor Ronald Reagan called for the FBI to investigate the Trilateral Commission.
     
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    Reagan's membership in the World Federalist League is well known: https://isi.org/intercollegiate-review/reagans-right-turn/
     
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    Ronald Reagan use to be a liberal.

    Adolph Hitler was also a liberal but they decided to call themselves Nationalist Socialist (NAZIS)

    Benito Mussolini use to be a communist but became a fascist when he discovered that socialist never get it right..

    The Democratic party use to be kinda democratic and made up of American patriots (nationalist) but started going socialist during the 1970's.
     
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    another day, another bystander get beaten, then vandalized public properties.
    https://nypost.com/2019/09/23/graph...otesters-viciously-beat-man-in-train-station/
     
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    There is a difference between trade with allies like canada, south korea, japan and even the european union and a political and military enemy - china - that wants to grow irs economy by shrinking ours

    As for the issue of American addiction to cheap trinkets from China how did we survive before globalists relocated our factories to enemy territory?

    We invented many if not most of the products and used to build them here

    Or did your family not own a tv or a toaster till china started building them for us?
     
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    lol i'm Asian-American, I probably will get a beaten if I say the same thing over there. HK economy take a huge hit now, especially the tourism industry, not sure how worker related to those service industry gonna recover.
     
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    It is not possible to default as they owe US Dollars and can simply print off more if need be. This would lead to some hectic inflation, but the debt would be paid.
     
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    The inflation would virtually need to take place overnight, otherwise interest rates would jump in response to the inflation, and then the inflation would do no good for paying off the debt because lenders would be demanding higher interest rates to match.

    We are talking about 2000% inflation within a matter of weeks or months, not to mention the credit rating of the country permanently destroyed.
     
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    US debt to China is 1.1tn. Bad, but not too bad. You could pay it down in the next round of QE if you wanted.

    Borrowing is old hat.
     
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    And then interest rates would jump in response to that inflation.

    Sorry, it's not a free lunch.
     
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    I'm not saying it's a free lunch. There is no such thing as a free lunch. I am saying you can not default. It ia not possible.

    And besides, interest rates didn't jump after 800 billion of QE.
     
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    You said "Reagan was president of the world Federalist League", which is false and now claim his membership is well known, also false.

    Your link only says he only spoke to them in a 15 minute radio address and the aim of the group seem harmless enough anyway.

    Reagan famously said the he never left the Democratic Party, that the Democratic Party left him. I suspect many former Democrats are now saying the same thing. Adam Schiff is no John Kennedy.
     
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    They are anarchists. I recall when students were protesting in Greece, the masked anarchists would come and start destroying cars and stores etc. A bank worker was killed and it shocked the nation. It turned out they were speaking foreign languages, so what was their intent?

    Frankly, I couldn't understand why the EU allowed them to wear masks?
     
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    Indeed, why ask the traitor who betrayed his oath, his country, and Hong Kong’s revolutionaries.

    He may have been born in America, but he is not true to her ideals of liberty, capitalism, and individual rights.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bu...-hong-kong-silence-trade-progress-cnn-2019-10
     
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