Marrs proves that Oswald not only did not Kill Kennedy,but did not kill Tippet as wel

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    ha ha,your so dense about this case you deny reality that MANY witnesses said they altered their testimonys proving you have done NO RESEARCH into this case

    .please dont force me to humiliate you even further showing you all the witnesses who said they altered their testimonys.hee hee. let me guess,all those witnesses lied about them altering their testimonys right?:weed::grin:

    tin foil hatters would people like YOU who ignore reality.:-D your posts are so childish,as soon as I prove that your witnesses had no credibility showing that even one of the council members said Markham was a loony,what do you do? you ignore it just like you ignore all facts that show oswald innocent.hee hee.you keep evading that link as well proving your afraid of the truth.hee hee

    you cant stand toe to toe in a debate.you feel comfortable hiding behind a computer ignoring facts evading them.
     
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    Ya, all I've forced you to do is act like a kook tinfoiler throwing a temper tantrum. You are proof that there is no way one can have a civilized debate with people like you, due to your massive irrationality.

    Let me know when the black helicopters land on your head.
     
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    the one that throwing a temper tantrem is YOU,you are cornered with facts you cant refute AGAIN dodging FACTS they said they altered their testimonys so what do you do? you throw childish insults cause the truth scares you knowing your cornered.

    oh and you lost your credibility LYING saying there were not any witnesses there who said they saw two shooters.

    these two witnesses below saw them and yet unlike all those other laughable witnesses who i proved had no credibility,the warren commission did not call them to testify,obviously because it shreads to pieces their lies that oswald shot tippet.hee hee. when your ready to grow up and be mature and stay away from childish insults when your losing an argument,I'll debate you again,till then,thank god for the ignore list.


    Let me conclude by stating that the FBI deliberately ignored interviewing witnesses such as Aquila Clemmons, and Frank Wright – both of whom claimed they saw two men murder Tippit. The fact that the FBI ignored interviewing them is proof that they were only concerned with convicting Oswald for the murder.

    oh and that above is NOT my writing.its from another fellow serious reseacher.


    keep being afraid of the truth son,the government loves you for that only seeing what you WANT to see.way to go.kiss the governments arse and keep living in that fairy tale lane being afraid.your funny that you believe in magic bullets,the magic bullet theory of the governments.comedy gold.let me know where I can buy one of those magic bullets.:grin:

    you know,the magic bullet that the fairy tale warren commission said oswald used.hee hee.
     
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    Sorry, I only have a small amount of time allotted to interact with wackados each day, and you've used all that time up.
     
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    back to whine and cry in defeat I see.:clapping::-D
     
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    well one lone nut theorist here is obviously scared and afraid of the truth ignoring links and no commenting on facts that prove him wrong,so the next magic bullet theorist who wants to come on here and embarrass and humiliate themselves,here is the two videos I was talking about earlier that I did not post that prove there was a conspiracy and there were multiple shooters there that day.nobody can account for all these multiple bullets found that day that cant be traced back to oswald.hee hee

    the bullet found in the windshield that cops said was an ENTRANCE bullet,the one photographed in the DOORFRAME,the one in thr grass that as these videos show,show an unidentified FBI plainsclothesmen picking up and walking off with.None of you magic bullet theorists EVER have an answer for the facts in these videos and thats cause you wont watch them cause the truth scares you.hee hee.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j35UxRKDW-s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGBsDoaWO8o

    you magic bullet theorists cant stand toe to toe in a debate.you hide behind a computer and shoot the messenger cause the truth hurts.grow up.
     
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    I mean, it's not like you found yourself in this thread by accident now, is it? Nope. You're a bona fide conspiracy theorist now, and that makes you a nutter, just another N-word compared to the lilly white always pure and innocent propagandists, best get used to it.




    by the way, links in OP seem to be dead, videos don't play, and I don't know why, seems kind of strange to me.
     
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    He is a conspiracy THEORIST alright,he ignores FACTS that prove oswald was innocent of both killings and never addresses them and only comes back with childish insults when cornered with facts he cant refute there were multiple shooters there that day.hee hee.

    He goes by the conspiracy THEORY that oswald was the l:grin:one assassin so he for sure is a conspiracy THEORIST.:grin:
     
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    I'll address you since you seem rational.

    Poor old 9/11 is respewing talking points from Hear No Evil: Social Constructivism and the Forensic Evidence in the Kennedy Assassination (Mary Ferrell Foundation Press, 2010) by Donald Byron Thomas.

    Which not only alleges that Tippets was apart of a team to get Oswald out of the city, but he was also accompanied by another police officer Harry N. Olsen(which happened to be in a cast with a broken leg the day of the assassination). Thomas alleges that Olsen(Broken Leg and all) was the second shooter that fled the scene. Thomas and his kook conspiracy book has been picked apart, for not only distorting testimony from the Warren Commision, but also just making (*)(*)(*)(*) up.

    But, if you need a source for what the rest of the world considers reality, http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2010/12/tippit-murder-why-conspiracy-theorists.html
     
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    So here's a list of falsehoods that 9/11 parroted from Thomas.


    “Mrs. Acquilla Clemmons interview in film “Rush to Judgment” recounted seeing two men standing over the dead policeman. They ran off in separate directions. Although most of the Warren Commission’s witnesses said they saw Oswald run down Patton Street, Helen Markham said the killer ran past her on Tenth Street. Another witness who ran into the street at the sound of gunfire said he saw a man running west on Tenth Street, as did Markham.”

    FALSE. Acquilla Clemmons said that from a distance of three quarters of a block she saw a man unloading a gun as he fled the scene. He waved at a second man standing across the street from the squad car, as if to say “go on.” They then ran in opposite directions. The other witness referred to by Thomas was C. Frank Wright who saw the aftermath of shooting from a half block away. Wright initially said the gunman jumped into a gray coupe and drove away, then later told Earl Golz that the gunman ran alongside the gray coupe and that eventually they fled in separate directions. The direction of the man on foot was not made clear. Witnesses much closer to the shooting scene dispute both accounts. Mrs. Markham testified that Oswald ran toward her position at the corner of Tenth and Patton, then turned south on Patton away from her.

    there were witnesses who were not asked to testify as part of the official investigation…these witnesses….reported seeing two suspects fleeing the scene…”(*)

    MISLEADING. The two eyewitnesses referred to are Acquilla Clemmons and C. Frank Wright whose accounts of the shooting from almost block away not only contradicted each other but differed significantly from five eyewitnesses who were much closer to the shooting scene. Neither Clemmons nor Wright came forward and contacted police, instead relying on others to tell their stories in 1964 and 1966.

    Domingo Benavides was also a witness to the shooting but was not able to identify Oswald in the lineup.”

    FALSE. Benavides did not attend any lineups, telling police on the day of the shooting that he would not have been able to identify Tippit’s killer. When he testified before the Warren Commission in 1964,
    Benavides claimed he could have identified Tippit’s killer and that the killer was Lee Harvey Oswald.
     
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    Here's The testimony of Harry N. Olsen, the second shooter(with a broke leg), according to kook conspiracy theorist Donald Byron Thomas, the same guy that claims there where two shooters of Officer Tippets, in which 9/11 is parroting.

    http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/olsen_h.htm
    Mr SPECTER. Do you recall November 22, 1963, the day President Kennedy was assassinated?
    Mr OLSEN. Yes, sir.
    Mr SPECTER. Tell me, as specifically as you can recollect, exactly what your activities were on that day.
    Mr OLSEN. I was employed by the Dallas Police Department and I was working at an extra job guarding an estate.
    Mr SPECTER. Whose estate was that?
    Mr OLSEN. I don't remember the name.
    Mr SPECTER. How did you happen to get that extra job?
    Mr OLSEN. A motorcycle officer was related to this elderly woman and he was doing work, but he was in the motor----
    Mr SPECTER. Cade?
    Mr OLSEN. Motorcade of the President, and I was off that day and able to work it.
    Mr SPECTER. Do you recall the name of the motorcycle officer?
    Mr OLSEN. No.
    Mr SPECTER. Where was that estate located?
    Mr OLSEN. On 8th Street in Dallas.
    Mr SPECTER. Do you recall the specific address or the cross street on which it was located?
    Mr OLSEN. It's in the Oak Cliff area, it's approximately two blocks off of Stemmons.
    Mr SPECTER. How did it happen that you were not on duty with the police department on the day President Kennedy was in town?
    Mr OLSEN. I had my leg in a cast and I was doing light duty, which was working in the office, patrol office, and I had asked them if they needed me to work that day and they said no.
    Mr SPECTER. What sort of an accident did you have to injure your leg?


    See how easy it is to debunk conspiracy kooks?
     
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    What, no rebuttal 9/11? That's what I thought.
     
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    I love how when you are cornered with facts you cant refute,that you pretend you won claiming i have no rebutall just because I decided to to go to sleep last night cause I get tired of your pathetic ramblings,you should start a comedy club.hee hee.

    again you ignore FACTS that there were multiple shooters there that day and there was no evidence that oswald shot tippet either ignoring those two links I posted that proved those witnesses were not credible.:grin: THEN when you are cornerd with facts that two witnesses said they two men run off in different directions you LIE and say there were none,comedy gold.:grin:

    as well as ignoring these two videos of credible police officers that were there that day that talk about a conspiracy .these two vidoes counter all your pathetic ramblings son,address them and stop being afraid of the truth.:grin: Im waiting for you to address those facts in these two videos,you have yet to offer any rebutalls that refute those facts.you keep being afraid of the truth covering your ears and and closing your eyes when instead of addressing the facts in these two videos then claim i have no rebutalls.doesnt work in the REAL world like that son.:grin:
     
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    oh and since you ignored these two vidoes before and just came back with patheitc ramblings that dont debunk the facts in these two videos,here it is AGAIN for you to watch.as the old saying goes,put up or shut up.

    address those facts these witnesses talked about in these videos instead of evading them if you want to establish any credibility.so far you have evaded them and keep changing the subject.

    hate to break the news to you but that doesnt cut it in the real world.hee hee. they only take a little under an hour to watch and you got all this time to ramble on and on so i KNOW you got time to watch those two videos.Im waiting.:-D

    oh they can typeup and make up ANYTHING on the net so your ramblings dont shoot down those facts about clemons and that other guy.
     
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    I love how you worship the NET as the god of truth,your too funny.you really should get that comedy club going.hate to break your heart but the NET can make up ANYTHING they want to.

    You convenintly forgot to mention that Clemons said the man SHE saw shoot Tippet was HEAVT SET and short and motioned to another man across the street that he was obviously working with to go off in another direction,they went off in separate directions and AGAIN the guy she said shot oswald,her descrption did not match oswald.get with the program.

    HEAVY does not fit the description of oswald,He was THIN son.hee hee.

    I mentioned that fact earlier to you but you blatantly ignored it because as we both know,you are afraid of the truth and only see what you WANT to see.

    Here is the live description of oswald she gave in an interview in 64.nothing like hearing it from the horse mouth her mentioning the guy was HEAVY SET.she also mentioned that the police officer came by and threatened her to keep her mouth shut.Clemmons got murdered for telling the truth.giving a description of a man that did not look like oswald.


    see you go by the net that can make up ANYTHING.I listen to actual witness testimonys from their "mouths" in their interviews they give.

    oh and here is Helen Markham who gave an interview as well.not ONCE,did she mention she saw oswald,matter of fact her description fits Clemmons description of him as well ALSO describing oswald as being a short man as you can hear for yourself in the video.
    oh and officer poe marked the shell casings at the tippet scene on the sopt but later on when he was presented with the bullets they said oswald fired,those shell casing were NOT marked.ANOTHER crime commited by the dallas police.one coverup after another you keep ignoring.:roll:

    as always,you lose.you have yet to provide any evidence that proves oswald killed tippet or that therewere not multiple shooters in dealy plaza.hee hee.
     
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    Like I said,nothing like hearing it from the horse's mouth.Gee I heard clemmons say in that interview the man SHE saw shoot Kennedy was chunky and heavy set and short.

    Last i checked,oswald did not fit that description.:grin: Clemmons was also a prophet saying she was warned not to talk by that policeman or harm could come to her later on dying after telling the truth oswald was not the man who shot kennedy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaCCd0hzLsY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RavO_UJj84

    and as i said before,here is helen markhams interview and what do you know? her description fits clemmons as well.she said he was a short man also just like clemmons said.saying a short man shot tippet is HARDLY proof that oswald did it.hee hee.
     
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    something else i love about the lone nut theorists is how they not only ignore how the warren commission altered the testimonys of many witnesses,but how many witnesses prior to the event said they saw oswald and ruby together many times prior to the assassionation and they ignore as well that ruby had connections to both the mob and the CIA and oswald was an informer for the CIA and FBI as well.thats all been documented and proven.deal with it.

    - - - Updated - - -

    he is a lone nut theorist who has evade facts presented in videos and wont address links either as you can tell from this thread and then CLAIMS i have not refuted his facts.hee hee.
     
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    How do explain away the fact that the testimony of(*)Mrs. Clemons, is nothing like the testimony of the eyewitness that where in the immediate area where Tippet was shot. Mrs. Clemons was three quarters of a block away.

    She said the man with a gun went off in one direction and the second man in another.

    How do you explain away the fact that Mrs. Clemons testimony, is different from Frank Wright, the other witness who supposedly saw two men kill Tippets. He stated that one of the shooters got in a car, a gray coup, and sped away.

    So, how are the two witnesses you're going off, Clemons and Wright, have two vastly different accounts of the shooting? (*)(*)


    Fact is you can't explain away these facts with your rehashed conspiracy kook jibber jabber.


    Sit down boy, you've been schooled.
     
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    well since a serious researcher hasnt come on here in several months who is open minded and is not afraid of the truth only seeing what they want to see, here is some more information for that lone nut theorist who comes on here in the future to look at which proves as well there is no proof that oswald shot jfk or tippet.

    oswalds rifle as i said was a piece of crap when they found it,the scope was badly mislinged and out of focus and nobody was able to duplicate his incredible feat of getting down to the second floor in the time frame the warrren commission said he did.Garrisons investigaters tried it and none of them came close to getting down there within 90 seconds.

    plus as those videos I show that the lone nut theorists always ignore that I have posted at LEAST twice here that everyone can look at which the lone nut theorists never do,the evidence in them proves there were MULTIPLE shooters with multilpe bullets found everywhere that day that could not be accountable to oswalds rifle.

    the one in the doorframe,the one on the street,the one in the windshield that police said was an ENTRANCE shot to the front,and two ladies going down the stairs after the shots were fired,also had their testimonys altered by the warren commission which they have come out and said just like MANY witnesses have said as well,a corme the warren commission members all should have gonbe to jail for,they altered their timefram of going down the stairs since they would have had to pass oswald during the same time frame.this alone CLEARS oswald.

    this link for starters proves oswald never even OWNED a rifle.hee hee.
    matter of fact any serious researcher knows that there is a dallas policemen officer who was not corrupt that was there during part of the questioning of him about the backyard photos of him holding a rifle and oslwad said himelf those pictures were fake.

    http://elderlynegro.freehomepage.com/about.html

    plus the warren commission said oswald was seeking fame is why ke killed jfk,that falls apart quicklyas well since someone who was seeing fame would never deny they did it like oswald did.like when the assassin tried to kill reagan he proudly confessed he did it to try and kill him to impress jody foster,thats what assassins in the past always did,they ADMITTED it.oswalds words were-"No sir,I did not shoot anybody.Im just a patsy."score one for the warren commission there in their honest investigation.
    :weed::roll::grin:
     
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    OH AND HERE IS IS ON THE TWO LADIES I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHO TOLD RESEARCHERS THEIR TESTIMONYS OF GOING DOWN THE STAIRS AT THE SAME TIME OSWALD DID GOT ALTERED BY THE WARREN COMMISSION.A CRIME THEY SHOULD HAVE "ALL" GONE TO JAIL FOR.THE WARREN COMMISSION ALTERED "many" witnesses testimony as any serious researcher knows.

    Lone nut theorists are obviously not serious reseachers.hee hee.

    they altered their testimony because their testimony proves oswald di not fire the shot.here it is in black and white.they got harrased for a long time by dallas authorities afterwards and changed their address since they stuck to their story.

    also you have this story here nobody has ever been able to counter that these two ladies who were going down the stairs at the time oswald allegedly did the shooting,they never saw him pass them which according to the warren commissions timeline of oswald going down the stairs,he would have had to.The two ladies also said the warren commission altered their testimonys of their timeframe they said when they went down and were harrassed many times by the police when they insisted on the timeframe they had.the warren commission altered the testimonsy of many witnesses according to them which is a crime itself they should have gone to jail for.

    Here is their story nobody has ever been able to debunk.Matter of fact Stone mentioned this part in the movie.

    so much for your fantasys and the warren commissions that oswald did it.the warren commission altered styles and adams testimony like they did countless other witnesses because if they did not,they knew oswald would have to pass them on the stairway which he did not.altering witness testimonys is a crime the commission members should have gone to jail for.

    oswald had an intent to murder kennedy? err apparently you are not aware of the party that was held at his friends house George Demorenshilds whom Marina has always said that Lee praised Kennedy at? which by the way,Demorenshield had connections to the CIA and was found murdered with a ruling of a suicide when it was known that he was going to testify before the HSCA investigation.and guess who's phone number they found in his wallet? CIA director George Bush and future president.Theres all kind of proof out there that Demorensheild and Bush wer pals.

    Also you did not look at post # 1032 on previous page which exonerates oswald of having anything to do with the assassination.also you need to look at those videos I posted and just reposted through that link as wel that exonerates oswald and proves government compliticy.

    you are right about one thing though,Oswald was an easy fall guy.

    SO MUCH FOR THE PROPAGANDA OF THE WARREN COMMISSION THAT OSWALD FIRED A RIFLE AT KENNEDY..Read the paragraphs below.These two women Sandra Styles and Victoris Adams went down the stairs from the 4th floor after the shots were fired and according to the warren commissions timeframe,Oswald would had to pass them and they never saw him pass her.they also INSISTED the warren commission altered their testimonys,something they did with MANY witnesses which itself is a crime the commission members should have gone to jail for.

    And it was through Lane’s book that Barry was introduced to the heroine of the second story he will tell. That second story is about the plight of one of these ordinary people who was swept up by events: Victoria Adams, the notable “girl on the stairs.” She was an employee who worked in the same building as one Lee Harvey Oswald. The problem caused by her presence is very simple and easily summarized. Adams, along with her friend Sandra Styles, stood on the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository at the moment of the murder. She testified to hearing three shots, which from her vantage point appeared to be coming from the right of the building (i.e., from the grassy knoll). She and Styles then ran to the stairs to head down. This was the only set of stairs that went all the way to the top of the building. Both she and her friend took them down to the ground floor. She did not see or hear Oswald. Yet, she should have if he were on the sixth floor traveling downwards. Which is what the Commission said he did after he shot Kennedy.

    This is the first problem, in a nutshell. Why did Adams not see a scrambling Oswald, flying down the stairs in pursuit of his Coca-Cola? Because of the Warren Commission’s timeline, we know Oswald had to have gone down the stairs during this period in order to be accosted in time by a motorcycle policeman. In addition, as we are later to discover, Adams also reports seeing Jack Ruby on the corner of Houston and Elm, “questioning people as though he were a policeman.”

    From here the parallel stories broaden out. For Barry began to read more books critical of the Commission. And he would then compare what was in these books with the testimony and evidence in the 26 volumes. Like many people before him, he found something rather disturbing: the evidence and testimony did not completely back up the summary conclusions in the Warren Report. The Commission had selectively chosen evidence to make their case. And they had deliberately tried to discredit witnesses and testimony that contradicted their guilty verdict about Oswald. And the witness that they did this to that really kindled Barry’s curiosity was Victoria Adams. As the author writes at the end of Chapter 1, “What if she was right?”

    Adams did not find the government eager to hear her story. This is why they badgered her day and night: the FBI, Secret Service, Dallas Police, and the Sheriff’s Department. And Victoria noticed something discriminatory about all the attention she was getting: the other witnesses in her office did not receive it, e.g., Sandy Styles who ran down the stairs with her, or Elsie Dorman or Dorothy May Garner who watched the motorcade with her.

    The attention didn’t stop. In fact, even when she moved to a different address these agents followed her. Even though she had left no forwarding address and her new apartment was not in her name. But they still found her. They followed her when she went to lunch. They followed her when she walked around town. When she sent a letter to a friend in San Francisco describing what she saw and did that day as a witness, the friend never got the letter. The question they posed was always the same: When did you run down the stairs after the shooting?

    Then, another odd thing happened. When David Belin and the Warren Commission requested her to testify, it was her alone. Sandra Styles was not with her. In fact, Barry could find no evidence that the Commission questioned Styles at all. Further, during her appearance, Belin had handed her a diagram of the first floor of the Texas School Book Depository, the place where she and Oswald worked at that time. He asked her to point out where she saw two other employees (i.e., William Shelley and Billy Lovelady) when she arrived at the bottom of the stairway. When Barry went to look up this exhibit in the Commission volumes—Commission Exhibit 496—he discovered something odd. It was not the document in the testimony. It was a copy of the application form Oswald filled out for his job at the Depository.

    Further, although Styles did not testify that day, or at all, both Lovelady and Shelley did. And as Barry read their testimony it appeared to him that the Commission was making use of them to discredit Adams. Commission lawyer Joe Ball made sure he asked Shelley when and if he saw Adams after the shooting. And when Barry read Lovelady’s testimony his mouth flew open. Lovelady brought up Adams’ name before Ball did! And he called her by her nickname, “Vickie.” Barry was puzzled as to what prompted this spontaneous reference to Adams. Did Lovelady know in advance that Ball was going to specifically ask about her?

    Indeed, when she read her own testimony in the Warren Commission—and the Commission’s use of it—Adams was startled to find major discrepancies, including the time interval as to when she started down the stairs after she heard the shots. This began for her a lifelong burden of living in the shadows, avoiding any publicity dealing with her testimony or her treatment at the hands of the Commission. When her employer, publishing house Scott Foresman, offered her a chance to transfer out of Dallas to Chicago in 1966, she took it. (p. 35) While there, she actually now began to read the Warren Report. She now noted what they had done with Lovelady and Shelley. This stupefied her. Because she did not recall seeing either man after she and Styles arrived on the first floor. (p. 36)

    discovering documents that bear out her veracity.
     
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    strike three you lose.you lie as always as well saying i have been schooled.I gave you 3 chances to watch those videos and disprove the facts in them that there were multiple shootersthere that day that killed kennedy.ALL 3 times you dodged those 2 videos.

    you keep cowardly running away from those 2 videos that prove there were multiple shooters there that day with multiple bullets photographed that could not be traced back to oswalds rifle as well as ignoring the FACTS that witness testimonys,ignoring what I just posted on those 2 ladies who told independent investigaters they warren commission altered their testimonys a crime itself.

    you ALSO ignored who officer poe marked the shell casings at the scne of the crime and then when the warren commission presented the shell casings,the initials of officer poe were NOT marked on the shell casings.you ALSO ignored that Markham only described him as being short which HARDLY proves oswald did it.

    you ASLSO ignored that the lawyer jospeh ball who questioned markham,called her a loony screwball or something like that which i mentioned earlier,that her testimony was hardly reliable that she changed her story many times.nice game of dodgeball you play.:roll::grin: matter of fact,her ORIGINAL testimony of how she described the killer shooting tippet ALSO fits the description of Clemmons as well saying the killer was ALSO pudgy and had bush hair.

    stay tuned,I got more on that,you dont understand that unlike you,i look at the other side of the coin have read over a hundred books on the subject.I unlike you, dont go into it only seeing what i want to see like you do which is why you wont watch those two vidoes.hahahahahahahahaaa
     
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    now that I proved with videos and the testimony of those two ladies that there were multiple shooters that killed JFK and that oswald was innocent, here is MORE facts that prove oswald was innocent of the tippet shooting as well.

    Markham in her initial testimony said that tippets killer was SHORT AND STOCKY WITH BUSHY HAIR is her exact ORIGINAL testimony.that AGAIN fits the description that Clemmons gave of tippets killer.the warren commission denied Clemmons claim saying MARKHAM was the ONLY female witness to the shooting.gee I wonder why? duh.

    Markham,as i proved earlier in that link,changed her story many times after her initial story that fit clemmons description which is why here credibility was strained to the breaking point.

    you always want to go by what the witness INITIALLY claims because thats when their minds are fresh and Markhams ORIGINAL description of the killer of tippet, fits Clemmons description as I just proved.hee hee.

    Markham who was the chief witness for the warren commission,the one they talked about the most,had no credibility.as her testimony went on,Markham,claimed to have talked for some time with the dying Tippet,yet medical authorities said he was killed instantly. AGAIN you ignored that lawyer joseph ball of the warren commission called her a SCREWBALL AND LOON. or something smiliar to those lines.gee i wonder why?

    domingo benavides the closest witness to the shooting,was never asked to view a lineup nor was he able to initially to positively identify oswald as the killer.he only later changed his sotry positively identifying his as the killer of tippet after his brother was shot in the head.

    His brother looked very much like him so the government obviously mistaked him for Domengo and wanted to kill domengo for not positivley identifying him as the killer.

    AGAIN clemmons was killed later as well just as she feared..a FACT you blatantly ignored like so many other facts.

    Clemmons was never even taken to a police lineup or the warren commission.

    another witness to the shooting was warren reynolds,who chased tippets killer.He too,failed to identify oswald as tippets killer until after he was shot in the head 2 months later.

    after recovering,Reynolds identified Oswald to the warren commission.

    another witness to the shooting was Frank Wright who lived near the tippet shooting.he heard shots and ran outside.In an interview with private reseachers just a year later,he said he saw tippet roll over once and lie still.

    He has a long paragraph of what he said that I wont go into so I will just cover the IMPORTANT last two sentences of what he said and how it ended.he ends it by saying-I've seen what came out in television and in the newspaper,but I know thats not what happened.

    frank wright a WITNESS to the shooting,REFUTED THE WARREN COMMISSIONS LIES!!!

    FINALLY,"ANOTHER" fact you blatantly ignored,is officer poe marked the shell casings at the scene of the crime and when shown those shell casings by the warren commission,they were NOT marked.another coverup by the warren commission.

    no wonder since the warren commissions so called evidence on oswald states-the cartridge cases found near the tippet slaying "were fired from the revolver in the posession of oswald at the time of his arrest,to the exclusion of all other weapons.':

    there are MANY problems with this evidence.First Dallas police sergeant Gerald Hill,at the time of the tippet shooting,radioed the dallas police dispatcher,saying-"the shells at the scene indicate that the suspect is armed with an AUTOMATIC .38." Oswald was captured with a .38 special REVOLVER.There is a SIGNIFANT difference between and automatic and a revolver.hee hee.other officers at the scene of the crime also believed an automatic was used.if an automatic was used,the oswald revolver found on him,cannot be blamed for shooting tippet.hee hee.

    finally theres the problem of the identification of the empty shells.officer jm poe received 2 cartridge cases from witness domengo benevides at the scene.in an FBI report,poe firmly stated he marked the cases with his initials JMP before turning them over to the dallas crime lab personnel.

    however,on june 12th,1964,the FBI showed Poe the 4 .38 special cases used as evidence of oswalds guilt by the warren commission.the bureau reported.

    Poe recalled marking these cases before giving them to lab personnel,but he stated after a through examination of the four cartridgs shown to him,he cannot locate his marks,therefore,he cannot positively identify any of these cartridges as being the same ones he received by benavides.

    so every witness listed ALL failed to identy oswald as the killer initially describing him as being heavy set and chunky with bushy hair and you got two policemen reporing the shell casings are not that of the revolver that was found on oswald in your triying to convince everybody here that there is evidence that oswald killed tippet?
    NONE OF THAT FLIMSY EVIDENCE WOULD HAVE "EVER" HAVE HELD UP IN A COURT OF LAW SON.hee hee
    when you going to get that comedy club started?:weed::grin:
     
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    post # 73 on page 8 here,my previous post before this one, proves that the ONLY one on this thread in the last couple of pages that has been schooled here is you son. :grin:

    sitting down reading what our corrupt school textbooks in history classes like you have done your whole life is what has gotten you brainwashed all these years.your the only one that keeps rehashing conspiracy kook jibber jabber.:weed::grin: instead of worshipping what your textbooks in your history classes lie to you about,you might actually try reading an opposing view reading books that criticise the warren report other than just reading the warren commission.:weed:

    thats hysterical that you say they have VASTLY different accounts when they BOTH described tippets killer as being HEAVY set.:weed: you ignored it like you have so many other points I have mentioned like videos and links,but in Markhams INITIAL testimony,even SHE said he was a short guy and kind of heavy.

    Last time I checked,oswald was skinny.:weed::grin: oh and for the hundreth time,the lawyer joseph ball who interviewed Markham said she was a loon a a screwball cause she kept changing her ORIGINAL story of a guy that was kind of heavy that shot oswald.hee hee.

    you dude,would be laughed out of a debating hall in a minute if you dabated THERE the same way you do here.:grin:
     
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    Ok, so you couldn't answer my questions.

    Case Closed.
     
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    so the chessgame is over with 9/11 walking away checkmating Bluespade.

    Like i proved,facts show there were multiple shooters in dealy plaza with many multiple unnacountable bullets photographed that day,one in the doorframe,one in the sidewalk paved over two days later,one on the street paved over,one in the grass a plain clothes FBI agent is seen picking up and putting in his pocket walking away with,one in the windshield that forensic experts said was an antrance shot,oh and i also left out all the dallas doctors said the head shot and thorut wound were entrance wounds as well.and oswalds rifle they found was a piece of crap with the scope badly misaligned.

    then there is the fact that the first shot the warren commission said oswald fired,would have been impossible since photos show a tree there in the view.but most importantly what clears oswald of killing JFK is those two ladies were harrrassed after they refused to change their testimony INSISTING the warren commission altered their testimonys on the timeframe they said they went down the stairs,a crime they should have all gone to jail for. the warren commission had to alter their testimonys since oswald would had to pass them,something they said they never saw. again the warren commission altered MANY testimonys which again is a CRIME!!!!

    then as i proved,none of the INITIAL witness testimonys of the killer of tippet matched that of oswald describing him as heavy set with bushy hair,and the call that went out on the radio had two policemen describing the gun as being a 38 AUTOMATIC!!!!! with officer jm poe saying he marked the shell casings and then the casings the warren commission presented him,he said his initials were NOT on there, since we have no witnesses describing oswald as the killer of tippet and the shell casings were that of a 30 AUTOMATIC where the gun oswald waas arrested with at the theater was a 38 REVOLVER,this clears oswald of shooting either JFK or tippet and he was exactly what he said he was,a patsy.

    checkmate.next magic bullet theorist want to come on and embarrass themselves as well? Im game and waiting.anytime.
     

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