Martial Arts, Self Defense, and Combat Sports

Are you trolling, or going full retard?

 

Right on my man, my sentiments exactly. If one wants to watch real MMA sport, they should take a trip down to rio dijenero brazil, and watch their backyard sanctioned bouts.

no cheap wrestling wins as seen in the UFC.

 

LM, please feel free to share your honest and true experiences here. This thread is not political! I know you must be one bad ass mofo, having to defend yourself from the oppression of 'the man' and what not.

 

In my mind?

The term 'brawler' is derived from boxing, and is a common boxing style. Some 'brawlers' are some of the best boxers this world has seen. I don't care to take the time to walk you through the term 'brawler' or the style, so I'll do the lazy thing and let wikipedia do it for me.

Brawler

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_styles_and_technique#Brawler

 

He said that before he was laughed out of the sport.

That tends to happen when a mixed martial artists fights a guy that doesn't know how to anything other than throw power shots. Kimbo is any easy paycheck to any mixed martial artist.

Glass jaw

Huh?

 

You know, because Randleman and Coleman never had any success in Pride.

 

K... then why did you earlier try to include wrestling, Judo, and BJJ in the repertoire of a good brawler? And why confirm my own understanding of what 'brawler' means with a wiki link? lol

Meh, whatevs

 

First of all, the UFC lets wrestlers refer to themselves as mixed martial artists, its run by Dana White instead of Vince Macman.

Secondly, none of those wrestlers in UFC can brawl with Kimbo so they hug him on the floor until he gives up.

UFC is an insult to combat sports.

 

I didn't. I mentioned those is a seperate paragraph, as to illustrate my opinion that he has no ability as a professional fighter in any combat sport.

Did I now? You seem to be under the impression Kimbo is a good brawler, a style of boxing. If you consider 'good' as beating up guys with no fighting abilities in backyards, then so be it. I would consider Foreman a good brawler, an actual fighter who's not considered a joke in the fight community.

And even as a boxer, Kimbo is taking part in obviously fixed boxing matches. Just a clown.

 

Go ahead and name me 1 wrestler Kimbo has ever fought in a professional bout. His ground game is just so bad it's easily exploited by every walk of MMA.

 

And I believe Olympic wrestler Dan Henderson held 2 belts in Pride before it folded. I do remember vividly Dan knocking Wanderlei Silvas jaw into the crowd to capture the 205 lb Pride belt on top of his 185lb title.

 

I'll start watching MMA again when the bring back yellow cards until then its just (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag ex- wrestlers trying to win by a boring 15 minute pinfall.

 

Wrestlers always did well when stalling was strictly enforced. The problem is that the current rule system encourages stalling.

 

Guys with a base in wrestling have done well under any system I've seen, but I agree with you about yellow cards. Losing 10% of a purse will usually get the action going.

 

Or head kicks to a downed opponent. I mean there is no reason to fight for a LnP position when all you have to do is work to a north/south position and let your knees go!

Of course the UFC is a Fox product now, and the last broken arm on a live event was removed on the 5 second delay, so............

 

BTW, for anyone looking to see a great fight for free, I am really looking forward to Shogun vs. Gustafsson on Fox this weekend.

Gustafsson is the only guy I have seen who might be able to stand in front of Jon Jones without losing his head.

Not that Henderson vs. Diaz shouldn't be fireworks as well.

 

There is some truth to this, but strikers need to learn takedown defense and develop legit games off of their backs. No one is taking Jose Aldo down, and no one dares take down a Vinny Magalhaes or Damien Maia.

 

MacDonald/Penn should be fun as well.

I'm also looking forward to Brown/Swick. Not the highest rated fighters, but it should be fireworks.

 

My favorite MMA video of all time. A friend e-mailed this to me over a year ago and I still laugh every time I see it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l8FdrmVekc

 

I'm a judoka. Its not the striker being grounded its the absence of aggressive ground game that I hate. When the rules strongly discourage stalling as was the case in Pride and is the case in judo you get a much more exciting and dynamic ground game. I love the ground game as I've done it all my life but the current UFC lay and pray, and wall and stall is about as exciting as watching paint dry.

 

I love a good ground fight as well, but it seems like some guys who are really good at BJJ with the Gi aren't as good without it. I mean, there are some legit killers off their backs, like Vinny Magalhaes, Nick Diaz, Frank Mir, Fabricio Werdum, etc. Guys don't (*)(*)(*)(*) with their guards, no lay and pray vs those guys. But you also see some other highly ranked BJJ guys get taken down and do absolutley nothing, and play a totally defensive game.

But I do agree that the scoring needs to be changed a bit. I'd like the yellow card system.

 

Back in the day, in a time and place, I learned Spike Fighting. Anyone familiar with it?

 

With Gi and without are two totally different fish. But that is not the only reason.

The Gi also neutralizes the lay and pray strategy because of the power of the collar grip, and chokes. I've often refereed to getting deep into my sensei's guard as a feeling similar to getting your foot stuck under a cement roller.

 

And some have a better sense of humor:

[video=youtube;1h-85s3lc9E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h-85s3lc9E[/video]

 

Very true. Nogi randori is especially different.

X-choke has got to be the worst!