Matt Damon on Australia's gun confiscation...I wish that could happen in my country

Not me. Only the weak minded can't think for themselves

 

Matt Damon's, or any celebrity for that matter, opinion hold about as much weight as the gas station attendant's that refills the window wash bucket. I'm not sure who told celebrities that I want to hear their opinion but they were mistaken.

 

Depends on your definition of mass shooting--are you using the FBI definition, which is 4 people killed, or the Mother Jones expanded definition, which is 4 people shot.

Using the FBI definition (all of which by definition are part of the MJ definition as well), there have been none.

Using the Mother Jones definition, there have been three incidents:
Monash University Shooting--2 killed, 5 shot 2002
Hunt family murders--4 killed 2014
Sydney Siege--3 killed, 4 shot 2014


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

Also, interestingly, there have been a handful of arson attacks that have killed 10+ people each.

 

In 2013 the FBI revised mass murder to 3 people killed, so toss in the Logan murders.

 

A weekend in chicago

 

The point is that there have been mass shootings in Australia since the gun ban........

 

There haven't been any in New Zealand since 1996, and they allow all of the guns Australia banned. Strange.

 

Australia could change back at any time. Why don't they?

 

Except

We did not "confiscate guns"

 

"Sell us your guns or be arrested"

"In addition to requiring law changes to implement the above resolutions, the agreement provided for the establishment of a twelve-month national amnesty and compensation program, to be accompanied by a public education campaign, after which the jurisdictions would apply “severe penalties” for breaches of the firearms control laws"

http://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/australia.php

Sounds a lot like confiscation to me.

 

The Monash shootings highlighted a gap in legislation which has since been closed and BTW the guy was disarmed by an unarmed bystander (so much for the "good guy with a gun myth")

The Sydney Siege on of the deaths was by accidental or collateral damage from a ricochet bullet by the police

And the Hunt Family was a murder suicide

No the gun ban did not stop all mass shootings but let us look at the 20 years prior to the gun reform

Huddle Street Queen Street Strathfield, Campsie and of course Port Arthur just to name a few. We had roughly one mass shooting per year for the 13 years prior to the gun reform - 3 in the 20 years since and NONE with the death toll that characterised the previous killings

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A lot of people took thier chances an buried thier guns in sealed pipes - government did not really care because it achieved the main aim - getting guns under lock and key

 

Given that only 70% of the banned weapons were taken off the street, how does leaving 250k illegal "assault weapons" in the hands of criminals prevent a mass shooting? New Zealand still allows all those banned guns, and they've had nothing like the post-1996 shootings that Australia has had.

 

He should lead the charge to confiscate guns. we can read about how he was killed when he broke into someone's house demanding they turn their guns in. He's a complete idiot and it shows that people who are movie stars are generally rather stupid when it comes to real issues

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LOL, turn them in or go to jail

its too bad that people didn't resist that nonsense. Gun banning politicians are enemies of the people

 

I don't think the PolyAnna's understand the magnitude of the resistance that would be encountered in this country toward an Australian (where second amendment protections and a history like ours didn't exist) solution here. There are over 100 million gun owners, perhaps 120 million gun owners, possessing over 400 million weapons... more weapons in private hands than all of the armies of the world combined and a deeply ingrained sense of their right to weapon ownership, including huge numbers, likely more than Ausrailia's entire population that would resist violently. People already have a high level of mistrust in the government. Think the numbers protesting Trump are large? Imagine a hundred times or more of that number, but armed, if an Australian solution was attempted. This country already has deep divisions... does anyone really want to light a match? Lest any folks argue that our military and LE would roll over any resistance...really? Many would simply join the resistance.... Many in LE have already indicated they would not enforce such measures. When the Jade Helm excersize rumors and scare of a couple years ago was running, even the Texas Govenor said he'd deploy the national guard to protect Texans.

Politicians in Washington, including large numbers of democrats know the resistance that would happen... congress will never pass an Australian solution. The strategy of the Dems is a slow, steady erosion of rights, gun rights, a continual battery of anti gun propaganda using compromised media sources... it is an incremental, creeping approach, designed to empty the barrel with a slow leak rather than kicking the barrel over. Increase anti gun rhetoric and more guns are sold. Gun manufacturers hated to see Obama go; he was the best thing that happened to them in a hundred years...an increase of over 100 million guns in private hands during his term despite his anti gun efforts. If Hillary had won, I'd have invested in gun industry stock.

 

Crime in Australia grew rapidly until Australia doubled their number of police.

 

Thus meaning, by your own admission, the nation of Australia could easily experience more mass shootings at any moment, should one decide to dig up their prohibited firearms, and utilize them in a far more violent criminal manner than they currently are.

 

I've been asked where I will hide my guns if they come for them, at one time I bought a waterproof vault to bury but my position has evolved into hiding them next to the front door.

Oh and I hope Matt personally comes to take them.

 

If it is time to bury your guns,,,,,,,,,it is time to dig them up.

 

I just wish I hadn't lost all of mine in that canoeing accident.

 

Yea I remember, we were together on that trip when you stood up and flipped us and we both lost all of them. Good times. Let's do it again soon.

 

You know this statement is false, and yet you decided to make it anyway.

 

If you are going to be making ludicrous claims about the loss of personally owned firearms, it would do well to present something more realistic as an explanation.

 

If we're going to be deliberately making ludicrous claims, being more realistic defeats the purpose. "Canoe trip" is an in-joke on one of the gun forums I frequent.

 

Yea your right. The Russians hacked my safe.

 

Was there a punishment or any downside for the consumer if he chose not to participate in the "buy back"?