Medicaid increases by 10 million since ObamaCare rollout

Should we invade a small island instead?

 

You're going to pay for it, the taxpayer, just like if you ever need it, the taxpayers will pay for you. Is there a problem with that concept???

 

Yea, a big one. the 47% of the workforce who are already a net drain on the federal coffers.

 

Yes. Cubans would undoubtedly be very happy if America conquer their island. Or, did you have something else in mind?

 

If your plan was so good, how come it didn't meet Federal standards?? I got to keep mine and all my doctors as well.

 

Since when do liberals argue against more people becoming dependent on a government program?

 

Completely abolishing the military is an unreasonable idea in a serious discussion. There is no way that is going to happen, and I'm pretty sure there are more options then Over fund, or completely abolish.

 

Maybe you are saying that and he didn't?

 

I don't think they are ever going to understand that.

 

What a great post explaining the fine points of regular health insurance with its limitations versus the ACA. Very easy to understand for those who want to understand.

 

Awesome, and 100% accurate!

 

47% of the workforce? If they are working, what's your beef with them?

 

This post is so disingenuous. You don't give a dam, let alone comprehend, that this isn't about creating medicaid recipients out of thin air. We're still dealing with the same projected numbers of people who will need health care, it is a matter of how we distribute the costs and arrests them from rising, and despite your rants, the ACA is already doing that.

 

America being Grubered isn't enough for some, they seek to bring down the government financially too.

 

The states that decided to expand Medicaid will be left hold in the bag if the SCOTUS knocks down Obama care due to the subsidy verbiage.

 

Stop that, don't confuse them with facts.

 

interesting

I too employ people, not just negotiate benefits but I am the employer. My insurance rates have risen dramatically since the ACA was signed. Now, whether or not that was fear or quick profiteering by insurance companies is irrelevant, the rates rose dramatically from before.

The double whammy was Dodd/Frank added to the mix.

So, my monthly outflow of cash rose and, my lines of credit that I used to use to fund PO's were revoked because of new, "compassionate" and stricter bank regulations. And I run a profitable business with a good credit history.

That meant that I now needed to use cash to build product for which I would not realize payment for 120-150 days. My customers are big businesses and accustomed to net terms and will not pay in advance. if I asked, they would move orders to much larger suppliers who would extend terms.
I also sell into many countries where you can't get po's or invoices factored.

So, place orders, wire funds to suppliers to purchase raw materials and build, that process occurs and product eventually ships via ocean to me.

In the meantime, while that cash is tied up, I have salaries and all other expenses and, now pay more for med insurance. We shopped around and in order to control premium rise we had to reduce coverage and increase deductible. Our rates still went up for less coverage. Last year, we had to tell the employees that their contribution would rise and we shared what our premium costs have been.

Let's say that there are no longer any Democrats working for me and nobody has left the company. I've been fortunate to see sales increase of late but margins are eroding. The revenue increase has basically gone right back toward cost increases but nobody has been let go. Sadly, no hiring increases either.

That is the reality from an employer with less than 25 employees, namely, the businesses which the ACA and Dodd/Frank have tried to destroy

 

Because it did not include maternity, which I do not need any longer.

 

Healthcare happens anyway. All this means is instead of happening in the emergency room and being paid for by the taxpayers the needed medical care will happen under Medicaid where costs to the taxpayer will be less and can be controlled.

 

Just because you keep saying that, doesn't make it true. If it's less cost to the taxpayer, we'd all be thanking obamacare for our low premiums, instead, people like me are paying double premiums for less coverage.

 

If you are actually paying double for less coverage suggest you do a little shopping of the healthcare exchanges. Or, maybe you just never understood your old policy and now have actual insurance. Maybe you could provide specifics if you need help understanding why your rates have gone up.

 

I know why my rates have gone up, the exact reason for this thread, so that millions of others can now have free healthcare. I'm tired of being told on this forum that my other policy was junk. It was not, it was a great policy that had all the coverage I have now but without maternity, but half the monthly premium, lower deductible, low copays. Then you tell me to shop the exchanges? I have one of the bronze plans, it's not like I'm complaining about premiums while having a gold plan. I had to choose one of the cheaper policies because it's still $822/month. "*I*" am one of the real world taxpayers that is being truly affected by the ACA. "*I*" am responsible and know what personal responsibility is, which is why "*I*" am now bearing the brunt for the millions of new medicaid recipients. If you are getting medicaid or gov't subsidies, you're welcome.

 

The idea that the government controls costs is laughable. Do you have some reason for thinking that people who pay nothing won't still go to the emergency room for convenience? As I waited for convenient care to open one day, so I could save money, two patients showed up at the emergency room. One had a headache and one had banged his thumb and the emergency room personnel told both that Convenient Care would be open in less than an our and less than half what the emergency room cost. One comment was, "Why should I care? I have Medicaid and don't have to pay." The headache also commented that she had Medicaid. I pay for Medicaid and was waiting to save money.

No, the government spends other people's money. They don't save money. And Medicaid patients do nothing to curb costs on their "free" service.

 

This will help you with understanding why less people are paying income taxes.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/17/wealth-gap-upper-middle-income/

 

Do a little research into Medicare costs versus private insurance. And your example appears to show that the emergency room refused to treat the two patients you reference.