Medicaid increases by 10 million since ObamaCare rollout

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  1. mjz

    mjz New Member

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    Snide?
    That's what you call it?
    Damn..... I was attempting to be condescending and point out how little you actually know.
    No worries. I'll ramp it up.
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that your source for Truth? You must be joking... :wall:
     
  3. mjz

    mjz New Member

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    Yeah... right.
    You also stated no one had even explained what a junk policy even was.
    You've posted nothing here but BS

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  4. publican

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    Yeah. You post 'duh' you're being snide. Grow up.

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    Wrong. I said explain how MY policy was junk given the coverages I had.
     
  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, 15 mln newly insured previously uninsured, and Obama is not doing victory lapses around such a huge number? What, he's shy all of a sudden? Gimmi a break - no one is mentioning these 6 people who lost their policies and had to re-subscribe and be counted again, or dropped insurance altogether. And now Obama invalidated 3 mln employer-issued policies... nice, eh?
     
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    All those who are howling at the irony of these two statements raise yo hand.
    I don't know enough to know that I don't know enough :roflol:
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  7. publican

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    Well? What is a junk plan and how was mine junk? Still waiting.
     
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    Given that social safety nets are exploding, and given that it has a direct cause, in this cause effect universe, and given that this cause is due to the move of the elites to max out their income, by exploiting the poor in china and elsewhere, taking away American jobs, putting them on safety nets, and given that both parties have continue to allow in illegals, which pull down wages, and also take American jobs.....well, those that caused this, the elites need to see their income taxes go up, to at least 50 percent, over a million in income, plus increasing capital gains taxes which is really how many of the elites make their income.....

    So, make the rich pay for the damage they have done to America, no free lunches when they destroy this nation in their personal greed to max out their own incomes, by exploitation.

    So just imagine a bit here....if big business had come into the oval office when FDR, Truman, Ike, JFK, or even LBJ or Nixon, and said, "here's the deal chief. We want to move our factories outside this nation, while retaining full access to our consumer markets, so that we can pay cents on the dollar in labor costs, for we want a bigger profit, as we are not as rich as we could be. And since we will still have to keep some operations here, we want you to turn a blind eye to illegal immigration, for we need to max out our own incomes."


    What would have happened, is that the president would have called them treasonous bastards, and kicked them out of the office. After he would have asked them, what in hell would their fellow americans do for income? You want me to get your income taxes increased, so you can at least keep these people from suffering, or rioting in the streets? "No, says the elites, we want lower taxes." We are only looking our for ourselves, and really don't give a damn about America, or americans, for this is just business." With that someone like Ike would have kicked em in the ass as he pushed them to the door.

    So what changed? Well, that ain't rocket science. Use your brains, if you can transcend the propaganda you are fed like hogs at the trough.
     
  9. mjz

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    Such a circle talker.
    You have just been schooled. Deal with it or don't, but stop circle jerkin us.
    Oh.. and remember. You asked for it.
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    Do you need me to hold it for you when you pee, too?
    Read.
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  10. publican

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    LIEberalism is destroying this nation. Uneducated people who are told they can make more money on the dole than working, told they are 'disenfranchised', live by the politics of division and a POTUS who embodies these detestable traits. Hating the rich will not fix the lazy and stupid.

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    No answer kid? Typical librul. Always thinking below the belt.
     
  11. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every now and then a newbie comes alone who thinks he's G*d's gift to Political forum and will show us all the folly of our ways... No, I have not been skruled by the likes of you, you do not have what it takes. And no, Obama administration did not account for the six millions canceled policies. Deal with it, lad.
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Source that shows that six millions canceled policies are not included in count and who and where established that? :roflol:
     
  13. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why not over 50 million? :roflol:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Junk plan is a code word just like birther is a code word invented by Liberals to vilify an inconvenient something. There's nothing junk about your or mine plans that were canceled.
     
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    And you would think they would be a little more sophisticated than saying 'junk plan'. The librul mind is a terrible thing.
     
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    The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate of all industrialized Nations and it has slipped down to 12th place when it comes to economic freedom. The U.S. should get with the program and lower its taxes and regulations so that companies would "want" to come back. It's really that simple.

    If the U.S. does what you propose, raising taxes, then the rich will move out of country just like the French did when French President Francois Hollande raised the tax rate up to 75%.
     
  17. mjz

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    You've already read it. Gallop. 15 million more with insurance.
    Administration presently uses 8.2 million number.
    Denial.
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  18. danielpalos

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    I believe that may just have to do with mediocre laws and micromanagement of our tax codes.
     
  19. mjz

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    Typical librul talker, indeed.
    I've explained it in my own words at least three times in this thread,
    Provided searchable words with out links (and therefore biases) on two or three ocassions that give real life examples of the condition
    And provided a link to a great Consumer Reports article that explains in rather well.

    So you've had no less than seven answers old man.
    Shake it when your done.

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  20. mjz

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    Every now and then someone comes to a forum looking for substantive debate on policy from a political standpoint only to find a bunch of knee jerk participants who are high on insult and low on information. He plays their game -- which sure seem in violation of the rules -- and they don't know how to handle it.

    The difference, however, is he is a centrist, job creator who knows his (*)(*)(*)(*).

    You have been schooled brother. By some newbie. How dare him upset your Guru throne.
    You asked for a link that proves the 6 million cancelled aren't in the numbers.
    I provided it.
    The rest of this is just you in denial.

    I think you are completely full of it.
    And I'll call you on it with facts whenever I encounter it.

    If you ever want to have the beating stop and talk RATIONALLY - you let me know.
    Until then my responses will mirror the tenor of your posts.

    Yours truly,
    lad
     
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    that's cause we increased the income level for Medicaid eligibility.
     
  22. mjz

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    The relevant number is the percentage of Americans without health insurance prior to the ACA v the number he percentage of Americans without health insurance after the ACA.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/178100/uninsured-rate-holds.aspx

    More people on insurance.
    Less cost for healthcare for everyone.

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  23. Professor Peabody

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    They were available before Obama care for those without insurance.

    http://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/Search_HCC.aspx

    You paid based on your income. For bigger problems the HSRA worked with County run hospitals.
     
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    There were 46 to 48 million uninsured before Obama Care, now there are 36 million uninsured.
     
  25. mjz

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    Source please.
    Gallop source above shows
    In Q1 2012 17.5 % of Americans were uninsured
    After Phase one enrollment in ACA the number dropped to 13.4% -- the lowest in our nation's history.
    And the percentage is dropping steadily through the next enrollment period.
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