Medicaid increases by 10 million since ObamaCare rollout

But have the numbers of doctors increased that will accept medicaid patients? If the number of those on medicaid increases and the doctors do not, this may end up being just a good feeling exercise. They may have medicaid, but if no doctor will accept it, you get the idea.

 

Your state didn't expand Medicaid. It did, however, recently privatize it, which is going swimmingly.

Louisiana Medicaid costs up $950M as hospitals privatize

Greenstein is "former," by the way, because he was indicted for allegedly steering a state Medicaid contract toward his former company.

There is an argument to be made that some states do in fact run their existing Medicaid programs so poorly that they're not ready to expand (Louisiana being a potentially good example). In which case if you're upset about the impact Medicaid is having on your health costs, look to Jindal not Obama.

 

You are correct; it's not your responsibility, rather it's the responsibility of society as a whole to ensure that those who need a safety net to help them along with the hopes that someday they'll be able to sustain themselves without the help of others. Like it or not both you and I are a part of the same society and as such, it becomes our duty to help provide that safety net. It's just the way it is here in this country.

 

Our healthcare and teaching hospitals are recognised as some of the best in the world. It would help if you provided a link to your source. Here's one of mine, and guess where America ranks: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...rn-countries-with-us-coming-last-9542833.html

"...despite being the most expensive health care system in the world, the US continually underachieves on most dimensions of performance".

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/08/opinion/la-oe-dalrymple-british-health-system-20120808

Actually, our hospitals and schools are better then yours and so is our healthcare system. As for being most expensive, if we did not have to take care of gazillions of freeloaders coming from across our Southern borders and elsewhere, it'd be much cheaper. And our Government assuming control of it does not help either.

 

I know that's what you are telling me. I get tat your ideology is not allowing you to see a bigger picture.
Best of luck to you.

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Yep, a dear old family friend is an insurance broker.
Most form relationships and trust their broker and only shop around when the pnl is off.
Welcome to America, where we talk the talk but are actually lazy and don't have the slightest clue how to walk it.

Dodd/Frank didn't do it. Bank regulators came in and tightened equity to risk ratios well before Dodd Frank went through Congress. As well they should when deposits were federally insured. It's revisionism to pretend Dodd/Frank was the cause of that. Dodd/Frank didn't make it any easier in these out years, but your access to capital early on hampered by bad risk and the banks hedging against it and nearly melting down the system.

And you missed the fact that I do the same. And I employ more than 25. I'm not giving you talking points. I live, eat and breathe this stuff everyday. If you had a better idea than the ACA I'd have loved to hear it. Because those of us who provided benefits to employees certainly understand the old path was not sustainable. All I have heard from those averse to change is botching and moaning and zero alternatives.
I have no hard on for Barack Obama or the ACA. I am a capitalist. Profit is important to me. My ideology doesn't trump that. I'm all ears.

It's a big country. No one says you have to deal with a bank that is part of FDIC. If you don't like the regulations our representatives have voted to place -- find private investment capital.

But if we are going to bail out federally insured banks by covering deposits, than there are going to have to be standards to meet to avert the high risk/easy capital condition of the past. Sometimes some healthy businesses get caught in over-generalized regs. It would be nice if we could work on legislation to correct the issues -- but when all we do is demonize and present either/or challenges -- that's impossible.

Other times folks who think they have good businesses with a solid risk portfolio -- simply don't. Compared to yesterday our profit expectations and leverage to get there is out of whack.

The bottom line is the financial melt down of 2008 wiped out a ton of wealth and took down many small businesses. Protecting that from happening again so quickly is most certainly good for the country. If, now in Q4 2014, you are still having issues getting capital, I'd be looking at your model rather than (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the government.

I'm no politician, but I am a centrist democrat.
And just explained a more conservative capital approach than you seem to want.


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At last count 8.2 million. And yes, this number took into effect the amount of people who had their insurance policies cancelled because of ACA minimum standards. They are/were counted as covered in the statistics.

But please note an ultra conservative member here just noted that 6 million had their policies cancelled. And that they had their policies cancelled because they didn't meet minimum standards of the ACA. There's 6 million people who had policies that meant the rest of us had to pay the costs if they needed serious health care. Tens of millions more changed their policies to conform in the roll-up years under advice from their brokers. And that's the whole point. Lots of people with real insurance -- taking personal responsibility for their own health care costs.

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TOTAL BS
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That's what federally funded clinics were for.

 

Here's your great chance to rub my nose into some Government, or another reputable source statistics, accounting for 6 millions canceled policies and how this number was accounted for in relationship to the claimed 8.2 mln NEWLY issued health insurance policies. While at it, please account for 3 mln employment policies, just made incompatible with Obamacare by Obama administration on Thanksgiving eve. Go ahead, make my day.

 

Well of course the Medicaid Expansion was part of the ACA so its not shocking there are more people on it, or in other words, DUH!!!!

Many also were added to Traditional Medicaid like myself, so your point is poor people or the disabled are getting medical care on a government welfare oriented program and that is - bad?

 

Let me summarize this entire thread, someone posted how we now have 10 millions new medicaid recipients, then tells us how much cheaper health insurance is because of it. The cost is going down! Meanwhile, millions lose their policies and find out it's going to cost substancially more for a new policy that complies with the ACA guidelines.

but health insurance cost are going down, we're told............ again!

Then, millions of families who just had to begin paying for these higher policies get letters in the mail that as of Jan 1st, their new expensive policy is going up in price...........again

but health insurance cost are going down, we're told......... again.

Stop telling me my other policy wasn't good, it was and I don't need you or anyone else to make that decision for me. Stop telling me how health insurance is more affordable when mine keeps going up. Stop telling me how it's great because now more and more people are getting their healthcare for free, while I'm now paying double, for a really sucky bronze plan that has ridiculous copays and deductibles.

So I'll tell you again, you can keep saying how the costs are going down, and you can repeat till your face turns blue, but my math must be different than yours.

 

We should put them back on the Terror Watch List since A: Hacking is an act of Cyber-terrorism, B: They still haven't relinquished nuclear weapons and C: They've lied to the INTL. Community, which led to them being taken off the list.

We need to start dealing with North Korea seriously, they're treating us like lightweights and we're responding like lightweights.

 

Not enough Faith in Capitalism?

 

I have faith in our need for National Defense, this is the same country that has threatened us with those nuclear warheads(they also threatened our allies abroad.) In short, their actions are no different than that of the Terrorists and need to be reprimanded in the same fashion. No doubt, the NK Civilians are not to blame for their present situation, but to continue to allow the NK regime to issue threats, pose threats to our cyber security is not only weakness, its asking for an attack to happen!

If the NK Regime wants to be seen as legitimate in the eyes of its people, in the eyes of the world then they willl act accordingly. If they refuse, then we must act accordingly to protect our people and country.

 

More socialism, less Capitalism; i got it.

 

If you insist...

One easy way to exclude these cancelled policies is to count uninsured prior to enactment of ACA enactment and compare to today. Pretty simple concept.

Gallup finds 15 million folks who didn’t have health insurance before the ACA was signed into law in 2010 are now covered. This brings the total uninsured adults in the US from 18% to 13.4%.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/168821/uninsured-rate-drops.aspx

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Garbage. Gallup talks about signups and in any case only talk about these who did not have insurance in 2010 whereas I'm talking about people who's insurance was canceled by Obamacare in 2010 and in 2014. Try again?

 

If you say so....
X amount did not have insurance in 2010
X amount had insurance in 2014.
Doesn't much matter who had it cancelled -- but my source certainly fulfilled your deflection assignment.

What mattered is why.
It's what the ACA is all about.
And your post, proved the need.
You need to go back and read through the posts. You proved my point.

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Methinks you are prone to exaggeration. But yes we liberals do think good healthcare should be available to all Americans. Most of the rest of the developed world seems capable of doing this and doing it at a cost substantially less than the United States currently spends. Very simple research will show you that it is possible to provide universal healthcare to all citizens with better outcomes than currently happening in this country.

 

So your solution is to make federally funded clinics universally available. Maybe run by the VA. Sounds like a demonstration of the old adage " For every complex problem there is a simple and incorrect solution"

 

Can't give it to you when they don't, themselves, know what's in it.

The Patient Protection and Affordability Care Act changed that.

For those moaning about how expensive their insurance has become under ObamaCare....
Welcome to the reality of how expensive health care is in the United States.

The ACA didn't raise the costs of health care.
It put consumer protection regulations in place so you can easily see what you are buying to ensure you are not abdicating your responsibility to be covered.
Low deductibles and low premium costs are a small part of the cost of insurance.
What you get matters.

We get that you believed you had good insurance.
We also get that you had zero clue about what you actually had.

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That's how many Americans bought insurance. They could name the provider, premium cost and deductible. Big deal.
The truth is you had no clue what restrictions and limits you had.

What you don't get is those of us who cared more about what was actually covered rather than just who provided it and how cheap the monthly premium was are also working taxpayers. We figured out how to pay the costs for outrageously expensive Health Care in the United States. Now it's your turn. Stop moaning and take personal responsibility to pay for your own health care.

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Stop telling me to take personal responsibility. You have said that no less than 4 times towards me, when I am one who has never had gov't handouts, and never needed anyone to pay for me or my family. You'll say it again and again because it's all you've got. Want to say it again are you running out of liberal talking points? Do you even know what personal responsibility is? Rather, you are telling me that *I* should take personal responsibility for millions of others and their healthcare costs and I should stop moaning about it. So there, I cleared that up for you, and you're welcome.

Now I wait for you again to tell me that my former plan was a junk plan and I should stop moaning about costs and take personal responsibility for myself and millions of others who are depending upon my tax dollars. .................... wait for it...... wait for it.......