Military Spending Is Already Bankrupting America

Obviously foreign military assistance is part of the total military spend. NSA is part of defense spending - defending the homeland.

Don't tell me what I did or did not do based on your pathetic memory. I didn't need to include interest to get to 1 Trillion for 2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

If you include interest (which is obviously part of the total) the total spend was near 1.3 Trillion for 2010.

 

Disasters like Vietnam and Iraq have no resemblance to French support for the American revolution.

Now we are the British empire. And like all empires, it will collapse, but not before it saps American society of its vibrancy and strength.

 

The United States does not remotely resemble an "empire" of any sort.

 

Of course it does - at least on planet Earth. What planet were you referring to ?

 

Really? Where are the colonies of the United States?

 

Yes, they do. Overseas bases are a projection of power, a show of force, an imposition of hegemony.

The budge is responsible in support of your Geo-Political Strategy.

Obviously, you just can't grasp the concept:

The costs of not implementing this strategy are clear. Failure to meet our defense objectives will result in decreasing U.S. global influence, eroding cohesion among allies and partners, and reduced access to markets that will contribute to a decline in our prosperity and standard of living.

[emphasis mine]

https://dod.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/pubs/2018-National-Defense-Strategy-Summary.pdf

If you fail to achieve your Geo-Strategic objectives, your economic suffering will be legendary, even in Hell.

 

False. No other country needs to project power like this. It is completely unecessary and you have just bought into the hype. Projecting power is just code for sending American heroes overseas to die for Walmart profits. Close the overseas bases, cut the military in half and protect the homeland

 

They aren't heroes if they won't do their jobs. You romanticize the U.S. military too much.

 

Well you would know based on your years of service.....wouldn't you?

You sign up to serve your country.....not Walmart

 

Something tells me that I'm destined to never know the answer to that question (doncha just effing hate it when you ask a member a question and they don't have the common courtesy to even acknowledge, never mind answer it!), and that it's destined to float around unanswered in cyberspace for ever and a day.

 

Your country. Thus your country's interests. At any rate soldiers DO NOT get to decide when, where, and whom they get to fight.

 

My country's interests. Not walmarts interests. I get to decide where they go as a voter. I have as much say as you do.

 

Depends on context and the scale of the action. Sometimes, they do.

 

Yes. And I would wager good money (were I a gambler) that the majority of the America people if pressed on the issue would want the economic interests of the United States protected as surely as they want the "homeland" protected.

 

And I would bet a million dollars that if you told the American people we are going to invade a country for the sole purpose of protecting the profits of Walmart a overwhelming majority would be against it.

 

Except the reasons for U.S. military action are never that simple. There has never been a U.S. military operation solely for the purpose of protecting the profits of a single company.

And why are you so obsessive about Walmart?

 

You like to use the word "interests" instead of profits. No one will support a war to protect profits of a 100 companies overseas. It is not worth having one American die for that

 

If you want to see my mathematical calculations about "blood for oil" you would find that it is worth the life of approximately one American soldier for each one cent rise in the price of gasoline per gallon.

 

That may be one of the most disgusting things ever posted on this forum. My god have you no shame

 

You want me to go over the numbers with you?

 

Please don't. The fact that you could reduce an American hero to a number to reduce the price of gas is disgusting. Answer this:


If you believe so strongly in these principles of the American military.....why did you never join up and fight for these corporate profits?

 

Various reasons. Main one my parents did not want me to. Dad had done his time in the military and didn't want me to. My mother (though she would never use the terminology) believed like the Prussians she adored that the military should be manned by the "scum of the Earth" (like I said she would never use that term). But she believed that married men, fathers, only sons should not serve in the military or be forced to serve. Note the "only son" would apply to me. In short she believed men with certain inferred responsibilities should not go to the military.

My dad didn't take that extreme position. But he believed a person should only serve in the military if forced to (drafted). He had considerable disdain for anyone who actually WANTED to join the military and thus in effect volunteer to be put in a position to kill someone.

Second reason I had a full academic scholarship to college and I wasn't going to pass that up.

Thirdly as you know given your time in the Navy, servicemen DO NOT DECIDE where and when they are sent to fight.

Satisfied?

 

Please don't. The fact that you could reduce an American hero to a number to reduce the price of gas is disgusting. Answer this:


If you believe so strongly in these principles of the American military.....why did you never join up and fight for these corporate profits?

Nope. You could have been a man and decided to live by your own values. You could have served as an officer upon graduation from college. You would have seen that soldiers are not pawns used for corporate profits. You did not want to risk your life....your views on wasting the lives of those who are willing to take that risk are disgusting. If this was so important to you....pick up a gun and man a post.

 

My views have changed a lot over the last 30 years. My values as well. Surely you can understand that.

And simply serving in the military doesn't not necessarily make a veteran romanticize veterans as you do. My father had a lot of disdain for this attitude. He didn't even want any of the military trappings at his funeral that he was entitled to. My oldest sister overruled that though.

 

Now we know....you did not serve because mommy and daddy told you not to