Missile Defense Shield Threat To Russia -Putin Warns Of Nuclear War

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know what's wrong with it. I wiped out so many posts, and yet your post was the only one I received so I don't know what's going on. I'll clean out a few more and see what happens. :blowkiss:
     
  2. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I only have your two last posts in my inbox now. Let's see what happens.
     
  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm just being realistic and seeing things for what they are. I have quite a few brilliant and knowledgeable Americans who also see the situation the same as I do. Here are a few names: Dr. Ron Paul, Dr. Naom Chomsky, Dr. Stephen Cohen, Dr. Craig Roberts...

     
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    There was no call for help and there was no threat from "evil natzis". It's all in your head.
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, then the Right Sector didn't stop 300 Crimeans on the way back from Kiev, and they didn't burn their buses... and they didn't beat them... and they didn't kill seven of them... and thirty of them aren't missing? I guess then there was no such thing as the pogrom of Korsun and it's all in their imagination. :roll:


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    ararmer1919 Banned

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    Yes. That is correct. Never happened. All in your imagination. It in no way shape or form had any impact on Russia's decision to invade and annex its neighbors territory. The fact that you only started talking about this thing a full year AFTER Crimea had already been annexed shows this. You state that this was the main reason for Russia's actions, yet not once during the referendum was it ever once brought up as a talking point. Not once. Because it's bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and you know it. I challenge you to address that issue and actually answer it. Last time I did you never responded. You won't again. Because you know I'm right.
     
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    Thanks for that, snake - I'll look out for it. I think the late and very lamented Dr David Kelly, who met an untimely demise (and may he rest in peace) thanks to 'dark forces', used to work there.
     
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    No one disputes that Putin is freaking out.
     
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    Pop the corks and let them burn.
     
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    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    and you just trolling without anything to back it up
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've got 77 years experience in not believing everything I read. Not believing that treaties are there to be strictly adhered to. Not naive enough to believe that Russia or the US are completely honest. Treaty's come and treaty's go. They're all signed with fingers crossed behind the signatory'sback. Next time you're at a wedding and the bridegroom signs the register watch his other hand touch wood for luck.
     
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    Can't forget about its metro network with their maze of tunnels that lead to many strategic areas.
     
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    seem 77 yrs experience didn't tell you to google it.

    https://www.armscontrol.org/print/2556

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_START

    both side need to confirm other nuke before these treaty are implemented, otherwise no way they know the number etc.
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean like Bush had proof that Iraq had Chemical weapons.

    How do you know that either side did not have undeclared nukes hidden away.

    I don't need to Google for commonsense. .

    You really ought to read what you post. Most of those treaty's either the US withdrew from or were never actually activated. One finished in 2009. I think New Start is the only one in operation. And what guarantee do you have that both sides are abiding by that treaty. Oh, of course. Putin's word.

    You are naive.
     
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    There is no sphere of influence for Russia outside of the Russian Federation any other claim violates the sovereign right to self determination for all nations in question and recognition of this non existent sphere of influence would be tantamount to the secret protocol of the molotov-ribbentrop pact.
     
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    A couple dozen interceptors in Eastern Europe can't threaten the strategic deterrence of a country with more than a thousand deployed warheads, most of which would be travelling in ballistic arcs that those interceptors can't hit to begin with.
     
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    Our anti-missile interceptors are not nuclear tipped and do not have an offensive role that could not be filled by literally any AEGIS ship in the US Navy. Comparing them to the nuclear offensive missiles the Soviets placed in Cuba is absurd.
     
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    I would trust Vladimir Putin since his geo political views on a multi polar world are more positive and constructive, rather than put my trust in those who believe in non ending chaos and wars so they can form their new world government. This doesn't mean that Vladimir Putin or anyone else in the Russian government would risk Russia's security by revealing all of its defenses ...though they do give hints of what they have now and then as a deterrent.
     
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    That scenario is absurd. A significant portion of Russia's ICBM's are truck or rail mounted. It is basically impossible to destroy all of them on a first strike and furthermore its equally ridiculous to think that we could eliminate their boomers.

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    Iran only. Missiles on Poland and Romania would only be useful as terminal interceptors against North Korean or Chinese missiles targeted at Poland or Romania.
     
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    Cruise missiles are detectable, sabotage is impossible to do on a mass scale against 800 hardened silos spread out across 5,000 square miles, and we only have 20 B-2's.
     
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    Putin said those systems that are being placed in Romania and Poland can be armed with nuclear weapons within a few hours, and that he is aware of everything the US is capable of and what it will be capable of as time goes on. Washington also knows that the Russians know these things, so who are they lying to other than the reporters so they will not reveal the truth to the public.

     
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    so he's a liar too

    btw, Aegis BMD does not have the ability to intercept ICBMs
     
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    Jeannette....the U.S. could fly in some F-22's into these nations loaded with nukes and fly into Russia undetected at high velocity and the Russian's would never even know they were coming.

    Thus this whole thing about nukes is silly.

    AA
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Vladimir Putin wants the people to know what is going on, something that you and everyone else who works or follows the State Department line is not willing to tell them. Here he is talking to the reporters and trying to get it through their thick skulls the danger the world is in.


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    If you do NOT recognize Putin is by far the better global chess player than "the West",
    please type slowly and tell me what I don't get.​

    He is by far superior to his post Soviet predecessors.
    When do you suppose BRICS will mature to really stand up to the IMF?
    When do you suppose Russia and China will stand up together to say "No" to the West.
    I just don't see Russia as so down trodden as many here like to believe.
    Certainly, "my Russians" tell me times are tougher now, but know that is a manufactured product of the West.

    I doubt Putin is freaking out.
    Rather he is planning his move with more wisdom than moves made in opposition to Russia.

    BTW :flagus: blew it not sending a marching representation at the parade marking the whatever,
    end of The Great Patriotic War / WW2.
    1) Ferigners, even Russians, love Americans, they just hate our gov't policies.
    2) Imagine the Marine Corp Marching Band playing Sousa, or even a "Hollywood" fabricated band
    representing :flagus: in the parade. Nothing like the music of the other nations participating.
    American!



    Moi :oldman:

    r > g




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