More Than Half A Million People: America’s Homelessness Crisis Is Rapidly Exploding On Both Coasts

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    You are a smart person. It is obvious. But I wonder, you really do not understand what communism is? Or is it your way of trolling?

    However, maybe you are not familiar with the works of Lenin, Stalin ... Marx, at last. And you just quote phrases taken out of context. That too can be. I think that you did not read the classics of the communist ideology, and therefore perversely perceive theirs ideas.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Are you familiar with the concept of "logic"? Or are you not used to thinking and you believing any article of the Western media?
    If you have ever heard such a word "Logic", I will try to explain to you. It is very cold in Russia. The air temperature in some regions is minus 70 degrees Celsius. The whole territory of Russia, even in the south, in winter the temperature is below zero degrees Celsius.

    Now try to apply logic and ask yourself the question - how long can you live on the street at a temperature of minus 40-50 degrees Celsius (this is the normal temperature in Russia)? Minus 50 degrees Celsius = minus 58 degrees Fahrenheit (° F = (° C * 1,8 + 32)

    In Russia, 5 million people need to improve their living conditions. They are not homeless. Someone has several children and his apartment has become small and does not meet sanitary standards in Russia (such families, according to the law of Russia, should have a large apartment), some people live in old houses built in the times of Khrushchev (as example, in Moscow) for them also provide the property with new apartments of a larger area. And so on. But these people have housing.
     
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    Warehousing them gets the problem off your streets but doesn't solve the problem
     
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    Neither can you have it both ways sir. This is either a government of the people, by the people and for the people, or it is not.
     
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    The U.S. federal government trained and indoctrinated me to do only one thing...kill commies.

    I like to think I was some what good at it.

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    The problem, as with many problems, can only be solved when the people involved care enough to do something for themselves. You can't force them into society as we see it. You can't force them to take or keep a job. You can't force them to do things 'your' way. You CAN provide shelter where they can be warm in winter and cool in summer, where they can attend to their hygiene if they so desire.

    You can't force them to walk a path, you can only offer to guide them.
     
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    There are shelters they don't use now and you would have to put them in the warehouses you propose by force and lock them in.
     
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    Did your government brought up a fascist out of you? And you ready to kill a man because of his political views?
    However, the fact that the American government educates its citizens in an atmosphere of hatred is known for a long time.
    From the point of view of the American government, the ideal American should not have a brain. The madmen in the White House will think for him.
    Therefore, it is not surprising when the American president preached a fascist ideology to a crowd of American citizens. Remember? - "We are an exceptional nation"?
    Now it becomes clear why in the 21st century in the United States torture was officially allowed, the largest number of prisoners in the world, aggressive foreign policy and falsification of the pretext for the start of the war (for example, in Iraq) and, of course, as a consequence of the fascist ideology, NSA total surveillance of its citizens and the "patriotic act".(German fascists also loved loud and supposedly patriotic names)
     
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    You use the word "fascist" alot.

    During the 1920's and 30's fascism was the world crave. Many in the world thought fascism may be the answer and all of the world would become fascist.

    Unlike fascism, Communist regimes in less than a hundred years had murdered 100 million of it's own citizens. That doesn't include "war of liberation" or innocent civilians caught in the cross fire of wars or soldiers killed in wars.

    German Fascist ???
    I'm aware of Italian fascist but German fascist ?
    The Nazis were socialist.

    I just finished reading Albert Speer's memoirs. Albert Speer was Hitler's mist trusted friend.
    Hitler was a liberal. But some of the Nazis hardliners were real socialist.
    There were plans by the Nazi harliners after the war if Germany won, Germany's industries were to be nationalized.

    Interesting but not surprising, the Waffen SS toppled statues and memorials just not in occupied Europe but also in Germany.
    The Nationalist Socialist Party (Nazis) issued orders that no statue, monuments or castles representing Germany's aristocratic era were to be protected or repaired from being damaged by Allie bombings.

    In Europe being anti monarch or anti aristocratic is left wing.
     
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    Exactly where did I say 'by force and lock them in'? I'm sure you can quote it.

    I do believe I said in the post you quoted, that you can't 'force them'.
     
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    There is homelessness in a few places, all "progressive" cities, such as San Francisco.

    It no doubt has a lot more to do with those cities encouraging the homeless to live there than with the national economy.
     
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    I said you would have to put them there by force and lock them in. They have shelters now they don't use so why would they voluntarily go to your Warehouse of human debri?
     
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    Most shelters are overcrowded, especially at the top of the weather flux... hot and cold. In addition, most shelters are temporary. Making use of existing structures could actually make it a bit more permanent FOR THOSE WHO WANT IT. Not everybody on the street wants to be there.
     
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    Do you leftist ever learn? Did you learn nothing from the projects that are now all being torn down because they became cess pools of crime? You just want these people off your streets and you don't care how it's done just get them off.
     
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    What's your solution? Is Trump going to put them all to work? In the coal mines?
     
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    YES! Score for me today, I've ticked off people from both sides of the political fence.

    Now, try and discuss it as a human, rather than from a political view, OK?

    I will make the assumption the 'projects' you refer to are like the ones in NYC? Co-op City in the Bronx? Where people are not held accountable for the conditions that the rent to other people, the places of excessive crime and drugs? Exactly where do you think these people are going to go?
     
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    Your warehousing homeless idea is even worse than the projects idea and all you really want is to get them off your streets.
     
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    This is an unworkable idea to begin with. These building are not suitable to be converted to apartments. They are not zoned for this use, they lack adequate bathrooms, on and on. In addition, unless you allow unfettered drug and alcohol use the homeless will not go there. The people living in these neighborhoods will be up in arms as well.
     
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    These would become human debri warehouses full of drugs and crime
     
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    They are not 'on my streets'. I live out in the country, where the occasional homeless person will take up residence in a barn or storage shed for a couple of days.

    It would be interesting what alternative you have to offer. You've made yourself clear about making use of existing structures, so what do you think could be done to assist people to find shelter?
     
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    You earlir complained about walking down your SF streets stepping in human **** but now you live in the country.
     
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    I VISIT, or visited, SF, and love it as a city... it's not where I live.
     
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    Thank you..... and on top of all of that President Donald J. Trump....... (for all of his many, many, many flaws)........ has the intellectual COURAGE to tackle subjects and boggle the minds of some of our best and brightest!


    I am merely a janitor..... but I read a lot.... so
    I felt that the least that I could do was attempt to set up some of President Trump's team as well as politicians in Australia, Canada and Israel.......... to assist him with some mind boggling challenges that the left wingie dingie nearly mindless followers of Soros and Gore have set in motion:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/should-sorek-2-be-in-australia-or-california.530861/

    My evidence for thinking that President Trump wants to go down in history as the third USA President to tackle problems in the Federal Reserve system are .... for one.....

    Trump Calls For Auditing the Fed

    ......
    and.....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/is-president-trump-quite-libertarian.544916/

    Is President Trump more Libertarian than most Democrats?
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      Yes
      5 vote(s)
      45.5%

    2. No
      6 vote(s)
      54.5%

    3. I am not sure.... but I do hope so?!
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    Change Your Vote
     
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    There's an antibiotic-resistant super flu mutating on the streets there.
     
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