Most Europeans want to STOP migration from Muslim countries, study finds

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  1. Sushisnake

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    The undecideds are all decent sized pluralities, too. No opinion on an issue means it has no relevance in to the person's life or their family or circle of friends. Considering how high profile anti-Muslim sentiment is all around the world, and how hugely Europeans overestimate the size of their Muslim populations, those are pretty big groups of people to be untouched by it all. They and the noes must be the third of the population that don't use MSM.
     
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    If not yet, soon, I'm certain...

    The goal of terrorism is, of course, terror, and IMO the hijab-wearing females are a big part of the strategy.

    I am far from terrified myself, and more than a bit annoyed that so many seem unable to see or understand such an obvious strategy.

    So you're part of the "snake" too, are you? How amusing. A snake that likes sushi.
     
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    It's easier to turn on the flow than shut it off.

    Europe is lost.
     
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    It's actually my two star signs, pisces(sushi) and the Chinese snake. I actually hate seafood sushi, but my avatar kind of is a sushisnake- it's a kuhli loach, a small freshwater tropical fish that looks like an eel or snake.

    And as you probably picked, I subscribe to the FDR school of thought: "We have nothing to fear but fear itself". If I'm given reason to fear, I will, of course, but until then I'm just not and wonder at the hype. Perhaps it's because I've lived through this kind of fear mongering hype with other immigrant groups to Australia in the past. I've lived through it with countries, too.I've seen a few "evil empires" come and go. It's not new to me.
     
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    My interest in the Muslim issue is probably a result of my gardening experiences. I have seen how some organisms specialize in rapid reproduction and growth to squeeze out and extinguish others. A crowd operating under a pernicious "religion" that justifies the violent takeover and destruction of other cultures is not one I am interested in seeing occupy my country...and it saddens me to realize most European cultures will soon be at risk.
     
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    Lol. Nicely put. I enjoyed it. But I'm still not frightened of Muslims.
     
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    Yes if we don't let them come in and kill us they will get really mad at us.
     
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    They will not get mad for they will have their own land if their entry is refused and those are the vastness of Syria, Iraq, and other countries nearby.
     
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    Good post and an accurate analogy.

    Why so many people do not care about traditions and values that had been passed down from generation to generation, that their grandparents had been fighting for or even sacrificed their lives in their name?

    "The moment you give up your principles, and your values, you are dead, your culture is dead, your civilization is dead. Period." - Oriana Fallaci
     
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    Nobody wants refugees. The US didn't want them in the run up to WW2. The Palestinians didn't want them.

    Have you thought this thru?
     
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    It's because of getting 4 million newcomers into this country in as many years that we have a severe, impossible-to-meet housing shortage, and our social and health services are at the brink of shutdown.
     
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    Good post. As I've said here before, whenever I see news footage of refugees the children outnumber the adults by about 4-1 - and the women usually have another 'bun in the oven' too. Catholics also use the same recruiting method.
     
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    The population of Palestine doubled in 15 years with Jewish refugees. Yeah refugees present a problem.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The UNHRC registers them.. 60 % are women and children.
     
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    Oh Margot, I understood that Israel refused to allow the Palestinians to take in refugees unless they promised to give up the right of return - not that they have enough money to feed their own. What's your reasoning on trying to point out that the Palestinians will not accept Refugees and your belief that they are in a situation to do so.
     
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    Palestinians are already deprived of water and power. They are too poor to help refugees now.

    In the 15 years before 1935 the Palestinians had hundreds of thousands of European refugees forced on them
     
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    OK it looked like you were comparing the Palestinians with some parts of Europe and Trump's USA's response to Refugees. As you know that part of the world had previously taken in Jewish refugees. The issue was the intent to import a foreign people whose intent was to colonise their land and replace them as the inhabitants of that land - quite a different situation than those countries who are able to hold out a hand to those in need, particularly when the reason they are in need is because of the actions of countries such as the US and UK.
    (I have to go now to pick up child from nursery ;) )
     
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    Well that doesn't chime with my perceptions from watching 2 years of news footage of the refugee/migrant advance towards Europe. Also I regard official figures with a healthy dose of scepticism. I'm well known in some circles (mainly PF :mrgreen: ) for having 'gut feelings' and they're seldom wrong.
     
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    Yes, it reveals that it's predominantly old, retired white men who oppose Muslim immigration. And it isn't 'most Europeans' but a tiny sample of 10,000 (1,000 per country), in a population of many hundreds of millions.

    https://twitter.com/ChathamHouse/status/829048083849711616/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
     
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    Yep ... but you know that there are hundreds of polls and such things existing and an old valid saying says, never trust them!
    A core point can be asked by many ways and how it is asked cause sort of answer too ... knowledge of 1 semester media study at universities!

    Such institutes, as honorable or not they are ... were the same who made Hillary Clinton to be next president before election out of such polls and studies and we all know how great they failed!
     
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    Brainwashed, you write?

    Nothing says brainwashing quite as much as softening up entire populations with years of tales of dire Islamic derring do and then asking the battered-by-propaganda what they now think.

    Beelzebub is proud of you.
     
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    The ONLY reason why Sweden is not on that list is because we're not allowed to say it out loud. We have laws about expressing 'racist' opinions and we've got tons of laws on what constitutes a racist opinion. Just about anything at all.
     
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    Which is why the right in all those countries is in the ascendant - because 'a tiny sample' is voting for it? Yeah that makes sense!
     
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    I'm sure France will enjoy living in a fascist paradise under Le Pen and her father's Nazi-loving, Holocaust-denying guidance, for which he has been convicted of racism and Holocaust denial at least six times.
    The apple, as they say, does not fall far from the tree, despite her pronouncements that she has 'distanced' herself from daddy.
     
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    Some call her a fascist, others a patriot. I tend toward the latter.
     
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    Does 'patriotism' often include racism, Holocaust denial and a professed admiration for Nazi ideology? If that's 'patriotism' you're welcome to it.
     

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