Mueller report to be revealed soon!

Try reading the letter assigning Mueller again. Trump is not the direct target of the Mueller probe. He may or may not be up to his neck in the actions of the Trump campaign and transition teams but that will come out when the Mueller investigation finishes.

 

Proof is for court trials. Evidence is what I presented in post 84.

Did you even read post 84? Did any Trump fan read post 84? There has been no reaction beyond this poster who refuses to face reality. It shows how Trump is involved, and his fans can't face the reality of that fact. Why do they support a President they can't defend?

One important factor that we all must keep in mind. Trump never does the dirty work. He gets others to do it for him. Picture Trump calling the Russian ambassador to make a deal in December 2016. Never happen, right. So, claiming that Trump never collaborated with the Russians or did not know about the activities of his son, son-in-law, campaign manager, and personal lawyer on his behalf is meaningless and useless as a defense tactic. Trump is responsible for what the Trump campaign did in his name.

GO RAMS!

 

You read it again. Mueller was tasked with investigating the Trump Presidential campaign. Are you saying Trump isn't directly involved in the Trump Presidential campaign?

 

he was a real estate tycoon & like every other business owners, he had business dealings with many foriegn nations.

next, you'll try to tell us brexit was all his fault because he did business in the uk...

 

No he lied about his Rusdian connections. That is a fact.

 

No but linking Trump to the campaign is not necessarily a given.

 

Actually if you recall he did support Brexit although he was clearly too stupid to understand it.

 

Here is a short review of the case against Trump.

No less than nine of Trump's close associates have connections to the Russian government or were involved in concealed payoffs. One was the former chief of the DOJ. One is his former NSA. One is a former campaign manager. One was a former deputy campaign manager. One was his personal lawyer for ten years. Another one is his son-in-law, and another is his son.

In December 2016, Mike Flynn made a deal with the Russian ambassador for Trump, the elected President. Try to imagine private citizen Flynn doing that all on his own.

We know of at least one occasion where his son, son-in-law, and his campaign manager met with representatives of the Russian government at Trump's home, Trump Tower, to gain an advantage in the election. Put all this together, and it is extremely unlikely the hands-on manager did not know what was going on.

Trump has been accused of obstruction of justice. This charge is related to his firing of the FBI director. At the time, the FBI was actively engaged in the Russian probe.

In May 2017 Trump met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office. He had this to say about the firing of James Comey, his FBI director.

"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." "I'm not under investigation," he added.

Trump appreciated the help from the Russians and WikiLeaks. “WikiLeaks! I love WikiLeaks,” Trump proclaimed at a Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, rally on Oct. 10, 2016. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said during a news conference in an apparent reference to Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

Why in the world would Trump be so foolish as to collaborate with the Russian government in a Presidential election? Is he really that naive?

One possible answer is, his hands were caught in the cookie jar. Evidence suggests that he was involved in money laundering with Russian interests. This further suggests that Putin knows about it, and he is extorting the President.

Why, on a number of occasions, Trump encouraged the Russians and WikiLeaks to involve themselves in the election is a question no one can answer and suggests extreme naiveté on Trump's part, or a strong belief that he is above the law -- the law does not pertain to him. Who knows, but it was stupid.

Time reports, "Testimony to the U.S. Congress by the head of a political research firm indicates that the Trump Organization’s sales of properties to Russian nationals may have involved money-laundering.

“Transcripts reveal serious allegations that the Trump Organization may have engaged in money laundering with Russian nationals. Patterns of buying and selling were suggestive of money-laundering."

One important factor that we all must keep in mind. Trump never does the dirty work. He gets others to do it for him. Picture Trump calling the Russian ambassador to make a deal in December 2016. Never happen, right. So, claiming that Trump never collaborated with the Russians or did not know about the activities of his son, son-in-law, campaign manager, and personal lawyer on his behalf is meaningless and useless as a defense tactic. Trump is responsible for what the Trump campaign did in his name.

 

The problem is, Trump is not interested in being a quality President. He is only interested in divisiveness, creating chaos, making outrageous lies that get him on the six o'clock news every night, and exaggerating his self-importance.

One thing Trump enjoys doing is, if reality is not on his side, he preaches the very opposite of that reality. For example, he continues to make extremely unpopular partisan demands. What is going to say in his SOTU address tomorrow? He is likely to preach bipartisan unity. Trump also enjoys being a stand-up comic.

Pence is weak, incompetent, and unintelligent. It is why Trump picked him to be his veep. He did not want a rival. Pence would be a no-nothing President.

The nation yearns for a no-nothing President. They have had their fill of the Trump Presidency. I suspect this is even true of Trump's fans. No doubt they are weary of the stupid things Trump says and does and seeing the publicity of his dump moves in the media and on PF and they can't do a thing about it.

 

You have no idea what the Mueller report will say or how the Democrats will react to it. Have you even bothered to read the publicly known evidence against Trump that I have provided?

Or have you just ignored that evidence as you preach to us what is in the Mueller report. That's hilarious.

 

Did you even bother reading the know evidence, post 84?

Or are you speaking from the standpoint of ignorance?

 

No but linking Trump to the Trump campaign is not necessarily a given. Really? Personally, I think that would be a slam dunk.

Allow me to repeat myself.

One important factor that we all must keep in mind. Trump never does the dirty work. He gets others to do it for him. Picture Trump calling the Russian ambassador to make a deal in December 2016. Never happen, right. So, claiming that Trump never collaborated with the Russians or did not know about the activities of his son, son-in-law, campaign manager, and personal lawyer on his behalf is meaningless and useless as a defense tactic. Trump is responsible for what the Trump campaign did in his name.

 

You type teal deer posts

 

I doubt that will happen. Up to now Senate Republicans have been Trump lackeys, but that is changing.

The Senate, in a bipartisan rebuke to President Trump’s foreign policy, voted overwhelmingly to advance legislation drafted by the majority leader to express strong opposition to the president’s withdrawal of United States military forces from Syria and Afghanistan.

Also, McConnell has made no secret of how much he hates shutdowns, particularly the most recent and historic partial funding lapse. He said he’ll probably support “whatever works” to avoid another debacle. He’s considering bills to end shutdowns forever and giving his four GOP conference committee negotiators wide berth to strike a deal with Democrats.

McConnell allies say he’s not girding for confrontation with Trump and is only seeking bipartisan action to stave off a shutdown. But McConnell’s sentiments — reflecting a Senate GOP deeply disturbed by the latest debacle — will make it far more difficult for Trump to close the government again and still maintain party unity.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/30/mcconnell-government-shutdown-1137750

McConnell cautioned Trump about the consequences of declaring a national emergency to build his border wall, telling him the move could trigger political blowback and divide the GOP. Republicans in Congress are not thrilled with the idea of Trump usurping the power of Congress.

It's a start. I have a growing feeling that responsible Republican lawmakers are getting quite tired of Trump's antics.

 

I said, "Trump begged the Russians to look for Clinton's 30,000 emails, indicating there was cooperation between the campaign and Russia."

Yes, that old canard. You have to admit old, reliable, and powerful indication that Trump was collaborating with the Russians. You have an American Presidential candidate openly asking a hostile foreign government for help against his opponent.

Powerful stuff, right.

The most powerful witness against Trump is Trump himself, the idiot.

 

It was a joke. Did it really go over your head. Do you not even know what he was talking about? The news had come out that the FBI was having difficulty recovering the emails off the server THEY HAD IN THEIR CUSTODY. It wasn't even online, how could anyone hack it. The joke was maybe the Russians could help them hack it and recovery them. And what were the emails, her official state department emails which belong to WE the PEOPLE and were required to be publicly archive so we have access to them. The emails that got her and the DNC in trouble had already been hacked.

So yes that tired old specious canard.

 

If it's anything like his last report...

 

Why do you suppose that is. Could it be because the evidence has not been provided yet.

I noticed you, along with other Trump's fans, have not commented on post 84. There is a bit of evidence that is publicly known in that post, which is probably why you avoided it.

That way you can say, "we have not seen a shred of evidence of a crime committed by Trump."

 

Self-preservation is the primary driving force behind every politician, and most only consider the short term. As long as Republicans calculate that clinging to trumpery is existentially preferable, that is what they will do. How bad his relentlessly squalid numbers must become before they opt to jettison is hard to say, but there is such a point, and critical mass may be in the offing.

Within the GOP, some of the more rabid lickspittles of trumpery are already becoming irrelevancies:

 

So guilt by association? This is what drives conservatives crazy about the left. You say that with a "straight face"
I am a lifelong democrat but when people say the hell with our 250 year history of what we consider justice because
the president has the morals of an alley cat and "truth" is whatever and at what time.

Too many on the left just want him to be guilty so bad that it brings them down to the level that they appropriated for him. After 2 years no one has any evidence of a crime. Unethical behavior yes, but which of our presidents did not.

 

LOL, an obvious joke is now proof of a crime. What a hoot.

 

Message 84 where you said the Mueller investigation is all about Trump and then listed people and charges that have nothing to so with Trump? Where you repeated your specious canard about Trumps joke proving collusion which I have already refuted in message 116 which I notice you have not commented on.

 

When they nominated and voted for Trump in the general it showed that grass roots Republicans had gone to the dark side. They became extremists who wanted to rid the nation of party leadership, not knowing this would lead to chaos. They wanted to "drain the swamp," thinking all political leaders were dishonest and self-serving. The net result: the chaotic Trump administration that has almost more acting advisors than confirmed ones, and Trump has been forced to cannibalize his administration to get those. No one wants to work for a tumultuous government.

This has to change and Republican leadership know it. They are beginning to realize that a Trump supporter may win in the primary, but won't win in the general. So, what is the point of being nominated except the opportunity to burn money. The loss of the House proves it.

Somehow, grass roots Republicans have to change their thinking and quit being so confrontational or they will continue to lose elections just as they did in 2018. The Republican leadership knows that, too.

 

You think what Trump said was a joke? You got to be kidding me. Good Lord, are really that gullible? Wheee! Are you allowed to vote?

When a statement is extremely close to reality, it is not a joke.

During a Presidential campaign, if Trump asked the Russians for help in jest, he is even more stupid than I thought.

 

Speaking about gullible. LOL