Music festivals ban native american headresses.

is it ok for non-Scots to wear kilts?

that might be considered offensive.

 

I think you're misinterpreting my post. All the political correctness is simply nauseating. There's two sides to every coin. I think they'd be pleased that after all this time folks still remember their heritage and not just their slot machines.

 

My standard dress is shorts and a tee shirt and I'm highly offended when I see anyone else wearing my standard clothes

 

It seems that your argument boils down to 'I don't think it's a big deal so why should others'. Correct?

The problem is that it is a big deal to those who have actually earned it. I don't know what each individual medal on a uniform means, but I understand that they were earned (not only for combat) by the individual, and to wear them as a costume is very offensive to someone who spent a life time earning them.

In the old days, you earned your feathers in combat and by hunting, so their is a historical precedent with regards to risking ones life to attain feathers. Now that one doesn't have to hunt and risk ones life it is more about giving back to the community. Only Elders who have worked for the community their whole lives are allowed to wear them, so it's not just a Native thing.

Oh and it isn't just Eagle feathers either
http://www.tribaldirectory.net/articles/indian-headdress.html

 

The inane comments in this thread are truly amazing.

What the festival said was that they did not want a bunch of phonies participating. Plain and simple. What on earth is the big deal about that?

 

I'm confused as to what youre trying to say. Are you saying that native americans are okay with non natives wearing feathers? What do you mean by "it's not just a native thing".

 

No, I am saying that only Natives who have earned it are allowed to wear them, so a native person who hasnt earned one isnt permitted to wear one,

 

Is that the main reason natives get offended when people wear feathers as part of fashion? I thought they are offended by it for political reasons-because white people took the land away from them, and for whites to culturally appropriate their clothing offends them.

 

Well, I sorta agree with you. But, here's a question for you --> why do American Indian souvenir stores sell headgear and other items that were originally meant only for those warriors earning them?

Have you ever been in one of them? It's amazing what they will sell - far too much of it Made in China.

 

Oh I'm sure it's a whole ball of 'white people screwed over natives', but the specific reason for the headdress is that it is a very important part of their specific culture. So watching wasted white girls stumble around with one one gets a bit offensive.

 

Really? That's screwed up. I haven't seen any up here for sale in any souvenir shops, so I dunno about the ones that do. Those that do need a real head shake though. Or they just don't care about their heritage and would rather make a buck off it.

 

That's exactly what I'm trying to say. Not all native americans are offended by non natives wearing their feathers. It's not something universally offensive, like blackface. Many native americans actually accept cultural appropriation. It's more of a "gray area" issue. So why should it be banned?

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Nobody at music festivals pretends to be a native american, any more than a person wearing a cowboy hat is pretending to be a cowboy. They wear modern clothing (not a native american halloween costume). But music festival people wear native american feathered headdress in the same way that some people like to wear cowboy hats-cultural appropriation. (cowboy hats are copied from Southwest and mexican culture).

People like wearing feathers. They are pretty looking. If they offend natives, they dont have to look at people wearing them. It's may be offensive to some people and I respect that right, but it's not inheritley demeaning or racist like blackface. Equivocating the two is a fallacy.

 

I drove a tour bus for 5 years and often stopped at places selling "Authentic American Indian" goods. You would be amazed at what the pawn off on the unsuspected.

A good one is a Dream Catcher. It's supposed to stop bad dreams by ensnaring them in its wed. Most are made in Taiwan and not hand made as the Shawnee originally meant them to be.

 

Only certain tribes of Plains Indians wore those headdresses. It wasn't an universal thing.

 

So what's next, burning people at the stake for making articles that might be considered "cultural appropriation"? Google "feather headdresses" and you will see all kinds of them for sale on sites such as Etsy.

 

Yeah, anything to make a buck eh?

So? Does that somehow make it any less important to those who do?

 

He wasn't an amateur book writer but he was still an amateur historian.

And since you couldn't answer my question you had no point...

 

Idk man but maybe it's a British thing where we acknowledge the history of other cultures, maybe Americans have less respect and think fancy dressing as an Indian is cool or something.

 

its not being banned just prohibited at Glastonbury, they made a stance and that's respectable, they know the negative aspects of cultural appropriation like Christians pretending to be African philosophers and Germans pretending to be Israelites. Glastonbury made a stand against this deceit and brainwashing and its commendable

 

EDM people dont wear headdresses to pretend to be a native american. http://aoxoa.co/native-american-headdress-music-festival/

 

Sorry, but this is incorrect. Why? Because not a single person who is complaining about these things would prefer the primitive tribal life of their ancestors to the technological advancements of modern America. How many of these same Native Americans drive cars? Use the internet? Use modern medicine? Use electricity? Indoor plumbing? These people are not living in teepees and hunting buffalo. They're living exactly the same way as the rest of us even on reservations. Isn't it convenient how we're so quick to attack the Europeans for all these horrible things we've been told that they did without thanking them for any of the ways in which they've clearly enriched all of our lives today? Context is important. Especially when you consider that the vast majority of the people who complain about this kind of stuff are not even Native American to begin with. They are mostly white liberals with a penchant for attaching themselves to any pet cause they can find in the name of "social justice."

It's identity politics. Nothing more. Like I said, most of the people who are upset about this stuff are white. Quite frankly, if it were just Native Americans, their numbers would not be large enough to create any kind of significant social ripple. It is angry white liberals who are forcing it into the mainstream. People with nothing better to do than rabblerouse.

 

that is the end game. Glastonbury just has foresight.

 

It's just gibberish...

 

You said it was ok with YOU...

 

No DUH, I asked a question....do you know what the little squiggly thing at the end of a sentence is? It's a mark denoting a question...if you don't know the definition of "question"...look it up.