Muslim Areas in London

There are no "no go" areas for police in London, and the Criminal law is not Sharia, hence the two mens' arrest and prosecution.

 

Muslims who live in Britain as UK citizens are bound by British juristiction just like every other UK citizen.

 

When blacks and latinos start aspiring to be suicide bombers, you might be right.

 

Parts of New York City were very dangerous thirty years ago, sort of like Chicago, but it changed when Guiliani became mayor. He was tough boy, and changed New York. There is a difference though between enforcing ones own laws, and adopting the laws of a foreign institution like Islam. When a nation's laws are superceded by variant laws, then can these areas still be considered part of Britain?

Personally I see this as an Islamic invasion. A peaceful invasion, but still an invasion, and I really believe the British people should take that into account. Britain though is not the only nation that has been invaded this way. Paris has an area where the fire department and police are not allowed to enter. The people's supervision is under Islamic authority and law.

And this of course bodes another question. Are these areas now considered part of Islam, which means they will never be part of Britain or France again, since any land Muslims have lived on automatically becomes Islamic 'holy land'?

 

If a Muslim commits a prosecutable offence in Britain he is arrested and prosecuted under English Law, just as anyone else is. Islamic law doesn't enter into it, unless you can show me that it does.

 

Waiting in anticipation. Could be a very long wait.......

 

In the area I grew up in twenty five years ago, it was dangerous for a teenager (me or friends) to walk around at night due to various gangs trying to intimidate their potential "opposition". The local community centre and YMCA was at times a no go area. A few years ago, a bingo hall in the area was turned into a mosque. For some reason the area is much safer now. You only see the Muslims during the day time. The only trouble that occurs is when the EDL decide to congregate around the mosque picking on anyone who looks different.

 

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3. There's two people talking other than the gay guy in this video and neither of them sound like Muslim men.

5. The only person who even looks like a (middle-eastern?) Muslim I see in that video was the actual gay guy, himself

6. The very same thing happens in the US. Only recently did we even allow them to marry, and that's a battle still being fought state to state...or is it these "Muslim-gangsters" don't do it as well as US citizens?

I am a Londoner and have lived there most of my life and still have a house in East London and that house is in Leytonestone which borders the heavily Muslim area of Walthamstow. Since Muslim groups in East London have condemned the individuals involved and reported their names to the Police and the two have been arrested and charged it demonstrates that the Video is real and that <<<>>> should be roundly condemned for <<<>>> presuming authority over a subject <<<>>> demonstrates great ignorance of and calling people Idiots for beleiving something that was quite real.

 

OK, now to more general observations of the Issue.


I think there are some very serious problems coming from mass Muslim immigration to the UK (and elsewhere in Europe) these are because.

i) Most of the Muslim come from Rural backgrounds and have come to live in cities and have adapted badly, often the first generation born in the UK is the first to read and write ANY language, the original immigrants were often illiterate in Urdu/Bengali/Punjabi (etc etc)

ii) Most of the Muslims come from extremely religious communities where religious leadership is the only effective law and regular law enforcement is almost non existent.Corruption is rampant

iii) Muslim in their own countries are used to being 'top dog' and see it as their right to oppress minority groups

iv) Women's rights are very poor in the home areas and they have brought their attitudes with them

v) and probably most importantly the policy of Multiculturalism has encouraged them not to integrate and to maintain separation from the rest of the population.

Muslims in the Uk are the least successful of the immigrant communities from the Indian subcontinent. On the whole they encourage rote learning of the Koran where Sikh or Hindus encourage education in vocational subjects being poor they are vastly more involved in crime than the average but their level of crime doesn't come near some other minority groups. Single parenthood, the root of much crime is Virtually non existent in Muslim Britain.

Muslims have been able to exploit multiculturalism to commit appalling crimes because (white) people who had responsibility to stop these crimes have refused to investigate them. here are some examples:

i) Whilst it is illegal to circumcise females in the UK and this noxious abuse is widespread there has not been a single prosecution of a parent who has enabled this act. Police and social workers have a policy not to get involved.

ii) We have had a number of incidence, all over the UK, where Muslim groups have been able to abuse white female children from vulnerable background for sexual purposes. It was common knowledge for years and the Police even tried to stop the broadcast of a documentary (from the Liberal channel 4 show' Despataches) which showed this widespread cover up by police and social services. Due to massive public outrage there have now been a large number of these gangs uncovered and many of the perpatrators convicted and sent to jail.

I would like to see the law changed so that Myuslims do not get special consideration, that they are sacked for not doing their job (ie as a busdriver) when they inconveneince others because of their religion. Where crime is never covered up and where children from muslim backgrounds who wish to embrace their new cuoture have teh full protection of the law.

If anyone wants to argue facts rather than blind ideology I would be happy to do so.

 

There you go boringly repeating that Taqqi crap . What you need is Tabbouleh -Tortillas + Tacos .

Have you realized /remotely aware of how little you know ? + How you talk about matters you know extremely little of.?

btw - try learn the differenses between the various Muslim denominations but first of all learn about Crypto-Christianity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-Christianity

and Crypto-Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-Judaism


The denial of Peter :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_Peter


Then go read your Bible about mental reservations/deception/equivocation etc.etc
Find out about the Jesuits version of Taqqiya.


Take Aristotles advice - GO LEARN.



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I do not live in London ,however quite aware that there are social problems, fully exploited by members of the racists yobbos -EDL - BNP etc., in the areas you mention just as upto a few years ago Black/White conflicts in Brixton /Nottinghill etc. and before that between Jews and Oswald Mosley Fascists .

Can you explain how a bus driver has "inconvenienced " others as you say. ?


You say crimes are being covered up , covered up by who ? the police ?

What are the special considerations you speak of ?

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Hi Marlowe.

I can certainly address all your questions.

1) Muslim bus drivers have refused to allow blind people onto busses because they claim that their seeing eye dog is offensive to muslims.

2) Crimes are being covered up by the Police and by Social workers. the Police refuse to prosecute or investigate and social services often refuse to intervene when children are in danger whether inside Muslim famillies or when Muslim men attack indegenous girls. This is a direct result of 'multi racial' policies.

3) Some examples of special considerations: making public swimming pools ban men or women at certain times, demanding that at certain workplaces eating food by everyone is banned during ramadam, removing the teaching of the Holocaust from schools because their religious teaching conflicts with it, making only halal meat available in schools andother public places.

 

Your British Law is bending over backwards to accomodate muslims. What yesterday was a "prosecutable offense", today is shrugged off as a "cultural" thing. Look around you

 

These are all racist lies, but then you merely repeat them without evidence.

 

Well, I guess there's this, this, and this, and that was just a quick search. And so as to not offend you, I made sure they weren't from the Daily Mail.

 

I don't see the problem; it seems like in all three of those cases action was taken to either reprimand or fire the individual in question. People in the US do stuff like this all of the time. I can think of individuals such as conservative Christian pharmacists refusing to allow people to buy plan B for example.

 

Diversion from the OP, but I find myself OK with that as well.

Nevertheless, K thinks there's no evidence for it and I found it pretty quickly.

 

It isn't the law that is the issue. It is the policy of implementation that is the issue. I agree, though, that the effect is to bend over backwards to Accomodate Muslims.

 

You mean like Accomodating Jews in allowing to have their own, Beth Din, courts? How is that in any way different to allowing Sharia tribunals?

 

It is extremely offensive to accuse me of lying. To be lies I would have to convey them to you knowing they were false with an intent to decieve you when you had an expectation of being told the truth.

I wasn't asked for evidence but Ill happily give it.

The most important part was the cover up of Muslim child grooming gangs . The most famous is the Rochdale case where there were two gangs operating. You can read about this case in detail here . The case in Rotheram you can read about here.

Joyce Thacker, the head of Social services in Rotherham threatened to sack any social worker who noted the ethic angle and amazingly when aware of a young teen who was the victim of sustained sexual abuse offered lessons in Urdu.


Lets deal next with Busses.

This is reported here

You have said that 'these are all racist lies." perhaps you can now effectively refute the evidence I have given above or apologise for your accusations.

 

Personally I have no problem with Muslims agreeing to Sharia based arbitration in purely civil matters that do not involve child custody or divorce. I have a majo problem with muslims using Sharia based courts to replace criminal or familly law.

I also oppose the allowance given to both Jews AND Muslims to not be bound by animal cruelty laws when slaughtering animals.

 

Neither is acceptable.

Are you able to say the same?

 

Thanks for your reply , I'm not going to defend the indefensible. Howwever I learnt from this mornings Sunday Times 3 suspects have already been arrested and charged. Ages tween 17 - 29 . One is said to be a Black convert to Islam. Those converts do tend to go over the top , dont they. ? Its a group of self styled " muslim patrol. And the police are on to to them >

In an area where the majority residents are of a certain ethnicity some allowances - to a degree can only be expected. -for example in Stamford Hill most food stores are totally Kosher, Similarly in parts of Finchley- Golder Green etc.

I dont know about school's curriculum, but I'd have thought its all controlled by the Dept of Education or Boris Johnson's office . Can teachers pick and choose the lessons in your area ?

Cheers.

 

Frankly , I see no reason in objecting to either. I have the impression that any religious courts rulings cannot be enforced in UK Any disatisfied party can simple ignore its rulings - acceptance is voluntary.

If wrong then I'm sure someone will correct me .


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