Neo-Nazi network in German army exposed

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  1. cerberus

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    Noted, but I'm pleased to see that Russia and the US are at last joining forces to stop the slaughter in Syria, so if as you say they're enemies, that wouldn't be happening. You're talking a load of nonsense.
     
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    The enemy of my enemy is my friend slogan ... but really? No! Aside the ISIS scum are others ... on Russias side the Assad regime and on USA side the FSA.
    As far as both do not make the same BS as in Ex-Yugoslawia to implement UN security zones which are not worth to be named this way; I agree that both should solve this and at best without Sultan Erdogan involved or as less as possible!
     
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    Yes, that would be America-the number one threat to world peace. The true enemy, the true killers.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/greatest-threat-world-peace-country_n_4531824.html
    Your awesome, peace-loving country has killed more people, invaded more countries and bombed more sovereign nations than any terrorist organisation anywhere. So, exactly who are the terrorists here?
    'A terrorist is one who has a bomb, but not an air force'.
     
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    It is amazing that people would fall for the Trump/Putin false flag "now enemies" Three Card Monty.......especially about what is publicly known about the Russian connections to Trump & associates and the 2016 election interference.
     
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    Yes but I have hope for you.

    That's exactly what you did. Why can I find engish translations of attacks to support my side and you can't?

    More elitist narcessism without a shred of evidence to support you. So painfully predictable.

    I was hoping you would limit yourself at some point but its clear you can't.

    I'd say that too if I couldn't counter the actual attacks with some supporting my claims.

    Yet you did it. This kind of arrogance you employ is hardly unique albeit amusing.

    I attack sources that are not in the language of the forum you are on. That would be English.

    Absolutely
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    Right. I'd say that too if I had no evidence to support myself either.

    Why? You still haven't proven any of them wrong.

    Absolutely a Trump supporter. You can keep Merkle and her Islamic terrorist excuses while your women are attacked and your native population is being removed from existence.

    How about any that support what you keep claiming.

    Being in a different language is not complicated its simply cowardly knowing you can hide behind it because you are on an English speaking forum.

    LOL Why would I bother them with your worthless opinion? Sorry to burst your bubble but you aren't that important.

    Come back with the English translation if you want to be taken seriously. You are on an English speaking forum. Deal with the reality. How many of those are dead vs attacked? You once again pretend you can hide behind another language because you either are too afraid to deal with the actual numbers or too lazy to do the work required to make your argument on an English speaking forum. Which is it?

    And even if I take the names alone and ignore that you cannot prove in the language of this forum that they were killed by "right wing extremists" its less than 25. So you lied about the first number of 75 when you made that claim.

    So now that you have been caught fabricating the truth already why should I trust a list of names with the "justification" in a language that isn't this forum? Can you even begin to explain that stupidity?

    BTW, the dead alone from my website which of course you dismissed without evidence is 27 dead and 111 injured. The names alone even taken at face value from your so called evidence don't even come close to that level of terrorism and violence.
     
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  6. Mandelus

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    Sometimes I can really puke about this shameful behavior to mark out any case of immigrant crimes but ignoring the counter cases. Shall I really start to show you how many attacks of Nazi Scum were done in same time span, eh?
    OK, no problem, I will do only for January 2016 to show your one sided nonsense:


    2016.January.01 – city of Chemnitz
    On New Year's Eve, a three-headed family in Chemnitz was attacked by several unknowns and cursed against xenophobia. The 48-year-old family father from Tunisia who had been directed to a walker was sprayed with irritant gas and hit to the ground, his 13-year-old daughter kicked. The perpetrators fled, the family was taken to the hospital.

    2016.January.01 – city of Merseburg
    Shortly after 1 o'clock on the New Year, around 20 people moved into a refugee camp, shooting pyrotechnics on them and the policemen standing in front of them. In addition, a beer bottle was thrown at the officials and "xenophobic utterances".

    2016.January.03 – city of Pirna
    On Sunday evening, unknown people beat with a beer bottle a Syrian asylum seeker and offended the victim with xenophobic spells. The victim suffered serious injuries, the perpetrators fled.

    2016.January.04 – city of Dreieich
    On the night of January 4, several shots were fired on a window front of a refugee camp with 30 inhabitants. A sleeping 23-year-old man was slightly injured.

    2016.January.04, 08, 09, 10
    In cities of Bottrop, Rinsecke, Ascheberg, Schmitten and Borken yet empty refugee camps were attacked and heavy damaged.

    2016. January.10 – city of Bad Waldsee
    On Sunday evening two men threw two firecrackers through the tilted window on the ground floor of a refugee camp and ran off laughing after a witness.
    No one was injured directly, but a 47-year-old refugee and bombs from Damascus had a heart attack. Also the affected room was badly damaged.
    The two perpetrators, two 28- and 24-year-old cousins, could be caught and accused. The older man described the fire as a "deterrent", the younger said as a motive that it had been "fun". Both had been part of the right scene for years. In September, they were sentenced to imprisonment before the Ravensburg District Court for imprisonment for the sake of imprisonment with a serious assault on their bodies; The 24-year-old to one year and ten months, the 28-year-old to two years and three months!

    2016.January.13 – city of Jena
    On the evening of Wednesday, two refugees aged 25 and 29 years before a refugee shelter in Jena were first offended with Nazi slogans by unknown persons and then attacked and were injured. The victims suffered wounds on the face and were treated medically.

    2016.January.16 + 23
    At Cities of Soyen and Barsinghausen 2 refugee camps were destroyed by fire. In case of Barsingausen the possible death of the called fire fighters was included, because the gas bottles were so placed that following detonations during fire fight would happen!

    2016.January.25 – Berlin
    A man threatened a nine-year-old Syrian girl at a tram station. Racist insults were also made by the man. When one of the two Syrian escorts stood guarding the girl, the man hit her head with her fist, the other pregnant woman was pushed to the ground.

    2016.January.29 – city of Ihringen
    A man throw on the young son of a Syrian family with stones. The 12 year old boy was in the courtyard of his house near a train station, when a man from the other side of the tracks of the railroad, picked up stones and threw them toward the boy. He called racist insults like "**** aliens" and "I hate all foreigners". The youngster could get into the house uninjured, but one window was broken by the stones.

    2016.January.30
    After two 19 and 25-year-old Pakistani asylum seekers had left a shopping center, they were surrounded by a group of people at the exit. Two men beat them in the face. They eventually escaped to their accommodation. According to police, the disguised unknown attackers previously participated in a right-wing demonstration in the city.

    2016.January.30
    An unknown person insulted a 17-year-old refugee racist slogans in a supermarket and struck him in the face.


    And this was only January 2016!
    Will someone say that these were honorable citizens of Germany and does not agree that these attackers are simply scum … same sort of scum as the Islamic Terrorists?
     
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    How can anyone believe this bullcrap?

    morons claim trump is a neo Nazi.

    The media is simply too untrustworthy to believe.
     
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    At least you found it in English.

    I can shut you down with a single incident

    Leaked document says 2,000 men allegedly assaulted 1,200 German women on New Year’s Eve...about half of them foreign nationals who had only recently arrived in Germany — have been identified. On Thursday, a court in Cologne sentenced two men in the New Year's Eve assaults. Hussein A., a 21-year-old Iraqi, and Hassan T., a 26-year-old Algerian, were handed suspended one-year sentences. Both arrived in Germany in the past two years, a court spokesman said. He declined to specify whether the two had sought asylum. Officials have linked the sexual assaults to the influx of refugees. "There is a connection between the emergence of this phenomenon and the rapid migration in 2015," Holger Münch, president of the German Federal Crime Police Office, told Sueddeutsche Zeitung. Many suspects had originally come to Germany from North African countries rather than Syria, officials said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...omen-on-new-years-eve/?utm_term=.1db1f15eabd5

    From 2016 to current Islamic terrorists in Germany killed 16 and injured 79.

    Do you enjoy making a complete fool out of yourself? I couldn't even find a single person who died in your list.

    And where is your link? Why didn't you post it?

    Why are you so willing to apologize for Muslim attacks and focus on a group that doesn't even come close to their level of violence? Can you explain your stupidity?
     
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    I don't understand why you think abusive authoritarian governments are right wing. That's a trait observed across the board in a wide variety of political leanings. Tell me, how many fellow countrymen did Lenin and Stalin kill?
     
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    Jesus Christ, one cannot be that dumb, it's simply not possible.
    Your posting "come back when dangerous people (right wing extremists) have killed 10% of the number of people Muslims have killed in Germany" is wrong, plain and simple. There is not one reliable source to back that nonsense up - nothing.
    You can distort facts and twist them around any way you want, it's BS and remains BS.

    Unfortunately there seem to be no English speaking sources for the official number of the Bundestag and the research carried out by said media outlets, and that means these numbers don't exist - use google translate (you could have found out whether the numbers I posted refer to 'killed' or 'attacked' on your own, even without foreign language skills, and that sentence alone clearly shows how much substance there is to your claim - zero). For those that are thickskulled - it's dead (the word is d-e-a-d, as in "not alive anymore", in other words d-e-a-d).
    The lowest number mentioned by the Bundestag is 69 dead (the word is d-e-a-d) since 1990, killed by right wing extremists.
    By your utterly idiotic logic, Muslims have killed at least 690 people in Germany since 1990. Where are the sources for that number? You made that claim.

    You have your own perception and that's it, nothing else.
    No, Germany is not in the toilet (there really is no end to yank stupidity, some yanks, we should be more precise here), but I'll discuss that with my neighbour's dog, he's pretty smart.
     
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    Can you explain why you call a minority of a religion to be in general suspicious if not guilty for scum doing crimes in name of the religion ... or do you enjoy yourself to make you to a righty clown?

    In 2016 no one, but how many victims to Islamic terror in Germany since 1990 and how many due to Nazi terrorists in same time span, eh?

    Nazis killed 178 people + 11 further cases which are suspicious to be too!
    Islamist killed in name of Islam by terror or out of other reason 124 people + 15 suspicious cases

    No one denies that Islamists and Islamic terrorist are a dangerous threat and that they are scum which should be tortured to death ... but then fight them and don't blame all who share the religion to be guilty!

    And something other ... Germany took 1.4 million refugees of what were 40% no Muslims ... but folk like you make such differences not of course! Also it is of course hidden that in meantime over 400,000 of them have to leave Germany because Asylum rejected!
    Why they have not yet left you will ask? Simple ... logistic and judicial problems. Example: Those from Northern Africa like from Tunisia have no papers and so their identity is not confirmed ... and so Tunisia denies that they are Tunisian. What shall we do now? Putting into a plane and dump them b parachute over Tunisia?
     
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    There's an old saying at last call at bar closing time. "You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here." This aptly applies.
     
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    We don't have a last call in the bar in Germany! :-D

    By law it is everyone free to close when they want on the first and only in some local areas it can be a limit to have "open up to" ... but next sector of same city has not! ;-)

    P.S.
    Of course I understand what you mean with your words...
     
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    For those monolingual folks eager to read English speaking sources and seriously think the numbers mentioned in this thread are fabricated.


    Daniel Koehler is the Director of the German Institute on Radicalization and De-radicalization Studies (GIRDS) and a Fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism at the Center for Cyber and Homeland Security.

    Analysis of qualitative and quantitative data reveals that, since 1971, 91 right-wing terrorist actors (groups and individuals that could be identified) have carried out 123 attacks (including both successful and unsuccessful attempts) using explosives; 2,173 arson attacks; 229 murders; 12 kidnappings; 56 cases of extortion; and 174 armed robberies.
    [...]
    Although the German far-right movement historically has been extremely violent—officially, 69 right-wing attacks between 1990 and 2015 caused 75 casualties, though civil society watchdogs counted up to 184 deaths.
    http://cco.ndu.edu/Publications/PRI...in-europe-current-developments-and-issues-fo/


    September 16, 2010
    A study conducted by two German newspapers and released Thursday found that at least 137 people have been killed by right-wing extremists in the country since reunification in 1990.
    http://www.spiegel.de/international...ng-killings-since-reunification-a-717800.html
     
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    Republican rules state "you lose" if Nazis are mentioned. They (Republicans) get verrrry nervous when you mentioned Nazis. And we all know why, don't we?
     
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    Lol, World Socialist Web Site... I have a good friend in Germany who is part of the Bundespolizei. I'm anxious to see what he's heard about this... I'll be willing to bet you've been fooled and bought into the article simply because it shines a bad light on the right.
     
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    Calling your political enemy a Nazi is the number one rule in The Emotional Child's Handbook for Political Discussion.
     
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    Hell yeah, it their core of their core base. Putin & Trump banked on it.
     
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    Don't be coy. Every fascist, crypto-fascist, neo-Nazi and StormFront member in America voted for Trump, we all know that. At least, those who aren't in prison.
     
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    Amen! You know they did........Pepe dog whistles.
     
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    Not sure what StormFront is, but it's funny that all the ones that voted for Trump, according to you, were the same ones out there protesting and trying to silence his message before and after he was elected.
     
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    Typical gutless response from a defeated opponent.

    Your argument is so weak you can't even go point for point. Just keep on running away. Your women have already picked up on it.

    You have yet to prove a single one of those instances are made up. Not one.

    Still making up facts you never prove. What a shocker.

    Sure there aren't. How convenient.

    I'm not doing your homework for you. If you can't even provide a simple English translation so we know you aren't making up facts as you've already been proven to do there is nothing I can do for you.

    E-n-g-l-i-s-h. For those that are thickskulled. Its English.

    Provide an English speaking source or admit you made it up. As I said, even if I took every name you posted the number was under 25 so once again you are caught fabricating facts.

    I've given you my sources and the actual body counts. You have yet to provide any English speaking source to back you up and your word means nothing.

    No I have facts and you don't.

    LOL Yes it is. You all are surrendering your women and your country to those animals.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9892/germany-muslims-demographic

    Only a fool would deny the facts.

    The very fact you talk to your neighbor's dog says it all.

    Come back when you can stop hiding behind another language to make your case and back up the lies you make about websites you don't agree with.
     
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