Newt Gingrich actually gets it

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All yer drool proves is that Newt is open-minded.Doesn't parade around
    trying to be something he's not.He came up with the Contract
    For America and he stuck with it.
    Yes,you have proven Newt is not Closed-minded.
    He is open to Ideas.Not all Ideas an Idea man have are good or will
    work or are even prudent.But to be belligerently opposed to them
    like this Drat Democrat Party has proven it's malfeasance.
     
  2. The XL

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    Okay.

    Militarism- Wants to stay in Iraq and Afghanistan. Wants to bend over backwards for Israel at all costs, thinks radical Islam is the greatest danger to the US, thinks leaving would hurt our security. A whole lot of propaganda, a recipe to stay in our wars for a long time, and perhaps escalate/start more wars. Seems to want to attack N Korea as well.

    Christian Right- Opposes same sex marriage or any type of domestic partnership, wants a constitutional amendment to protect traditional marriage, thinks being gay is a sin, and doesn't think they should be allowed to adopt. Against abortion and the use of stem cells.

    Corporatism- Newt has no problem lobbying for the subsidization of things, especially ethanol. For someone who hates welfare for poor people, he doesn't mind corporate welfare much.

    Authoritarianism- Newt is not only anti illegal drugs, he wants to increase penalties for people who use or sell them. As I noted earlier, wants to subject everyone to his silly religious views, which he can't even totally follow himself.

    He's wrong on most of the issues, he's corrupt, morally bankrupt, and wants to impose his will on people. His militaristic policies would only further bankrupt this country, send more young men and women to their deaths, and raise the probability of an attack on our country. His Christian Right views that he would try to impose are stupid and oppressive. He's way too arrogant for someone with his low level of intellect.
     
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    In spite of your recital of inconsequential facts, or very important facts, but with skewed and biased 1/2 truths led up to bogus conclusions..... you will be intelligent to realize that Gingrich is the HANDS DOWN most INTELLIGENT & POLITICALLY SAVVY person.....probably in the WHOLE OF THE USA !!!

    As such, Gingrich SHOULD be our next President.

    But, as I stated somewhere earlier.....he ain't gonna make it because of people like you.

    Hopefully, the next President, free from the inconsequential CRAP of the politically incompetent detractors ...... will choose Gingrich as our VEEP !!!

    Whatever the shortcomings of our next President will be......Gingrich, as his VEEP, will, by having the accurate grasp of the REALITY of the situation, probably have America on the correct track.
     
  4. The XL

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    It's funny watching some of these huge government Republicans attack Ron Paul. Be honest, you want big government as much as the left. Perhaps even more so.
     
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    Nancy and Newt can solve it together, with big government and carbon taxes.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaZFfQKWX54&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaZFfQKWX54&feature=player_embedded[/ame]


     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds plenty Mainstream to me.In fact,that sounds like a guy who
    the Heartland could easily fall in love with.
    Instead this Marxist,Big Brother Brat in Our White House.
     
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    As usual, the perception of the Owebamarrhoidal idjits is preposterous.
     
  8. The XL

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    I don't know how in hell you can acknowledge and agree with Newt, think all of that is perfectly fine, then hate Obama and complain about his big Gov policies, but whatever. You're exactly what Newt is looking for.
     
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    As usual, another big government conservative assuming anyone who attacks their big government establishment is a Democrat and an Obama support. Or I think that's what you were driving at with that terrible spelling.
     
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    A constitutional conservative, that's definitely Mr. Newt! Stop smearing Newt with his own quotes. Are conservatives on board with torching our constitution and full blown globalism/global governance? Might as well let Obama continue following the CFR blueprint.


     
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    Proilly because I don't think like a Statist.I don't cotton Big Brother.
    I don't want an - Animal Farm - where guys like Obama { Napoleon }
    constantly connive and change things,NOT based on We the People
    but his own personal Fiat or Dictatorial mandates.Like the way the
    Stimulus bill was written and passed.Like ObamaCare where virtually every
    Poll showed Americans not in favor of a Government takeover of
    Health Care.
    I want the Bill of Rights preserved and respected not worked around
    and mocked.For all set in stone not ammended on the fly or declared void
    by interest groups and Politicians on the take.
     
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    Newt encouraged both borrowing and spending and falling wages when he was Speaker of the House? Do you have anything other than "because you say so" to back this up?

    In other words, do you have any facts?
     
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    Quote:
    Do you have any specifics or is this just another take your word for it because you say so?

    In other words you cannot support your claim with facts you can only continue to assert what you are saying is fact and we have to take your word for it; got it. ::wink wink::

    Quote:
    In addition, can you provide me with any substantive examples of Obama's, or any Democrats for that matter, consistency and how he doesn't speak to the idiot “sheeple” who elected him and will probably vote for him again?

    I should not assume that when you spam a thread with innuendo, you are not also defending the status quo?
     
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    I am fascinated by the anti-Everyone crowd. It seems that the only acceptable candidate to people who think like this is someone who will implode the world's economies and take us back to the agrarian past where life expectancies were about age 45 and we made everything by hand.
     
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    Oh BS. It doesn't matter. Gingrich got divorced, Bill just kept on cheating and cheating. Just because democrats are trying to tear apart the fabric of the American family does not give them a pass on morality.
     
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    I don't think you know what a neo-con is.
     
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    Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    ".....because you say so." Do you have anything substantive to add or should we just take you at your word because you have a superiority complex?

    I am always amazed how Ron Paul supporters sound so much like the whacko left; why is that?

    This is nothing more than your OPINION. How does this support your original false claim that:

    The XL;4695400; Newt is either an idiot or a scumbag, one or the other......and he's just another militaristic, corporatist, Christian Right authoritarian nutbag.

    Many would disagree with your naïve contention that we should unilaterally get out of Afghanistan or Iraq before their security from terrorists and Islamic thugs is assured. Otherwise they may descend back to where they were before we intervened.

    It is also naïve to pretend that there was not just cause to go into Afghanistan and Iraq. But when it comes to Liberals; facts and reality are not as important as making yourselves feel good and more superior than those who do not agree with your failed ideology.

    No facts here; just more of the same uninformed opinionated garbage we have come to expect from the left. How does this factually support your original false claim?

    The XL;4695400; Newt is either an idiot or a scumbag, one or the other. .....and he's just another militaristic, corporatist, Christian Right authoritarian nutbag.

    Once again see above.

    So in other words, Newt is “an idiot or a scumbag,” because he doesn’t agree with you or your laughably naïve points of view. Got it ::wink wink::

    Do you have any evidence that News has lobbied for the subsidization of “things?”

    I am equally amused by the term “Corporate Welfare.” I have found that those who use this fabricated term have zero facts at hand to support it and are generally clueless about economics and how business runs. Usually they are leftists who actually think Government works; but ironically and hypocritically only if THEIR guys are the “deciders.”

    I don’t know of too many rational people who would be leaders of this nation who would support legalizing illegal drugs and the societal consequences it would have on our country.

    Again, Newt must be “an idiot or a scumbag,” because he doesn’t agree with you or your laughably naïve points of view.

    Nothing here but innuendo, opinion and false assertions; I would ask again, do you have any FACTS to support your original false slanderous claim that “Newt is either an idiot or a scumbag, one or the other
    Okay, I am still waiting for some substance and facts. What I see above is nothing more than opinion laced with a significant degree of naiveté’ combined with a severe lack of factual cognizance of global politics, reality and economics.
     
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    You would be 100% wrong; but at least you are consistent.

    I am nothing close to a BIG Government Republican. The issue I have with Ron Paul is he is naive, economically challenged by thinking we can return to a Gold Standard and globally ignorant.

    The idea that we can somehow isolate ourselves from Global events and pretend we are safe should have been completely dispelled by WWII. Unfortunately people like Ron Paul never learn from history and feel comfortable in their little pretend worlds that we can insulate ourselves from economic cycles with Gold and isolate ourselves in a global marketplace with scarce resources.

    Other than these issues, I agree with some of Ron’s views towards Government and his open frankness. Qualities that would destroy a sitting President confronted with a semi-illiterate population and attacked by a lamestream media in the tank for leftist Euro-Policies that are currently destroying Europe and who arrogantly think we should be just like them.
     
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    The word of Rebecca Terrell is a very biased view that doesn't support the notion that Newt is an extremely intelligent historian and competent debater.

    After all, she is in the tank for someone like Ron Paul who has far greater issues with being elected than Newt will ever have.

    is a marketing representative in Memphis, Tennessee, where she lives with her family. She is a former congressional staffer for Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas). Rebecca earned a B.B.A. from the University of Arkansas and an M.B.A. from the University of North Alabama.
     
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    And YOU are exactly what the fools on the left and Democrats are looking for. Without naive historically ignorant voters out there, they can't hope to promote their failed ideology and agenda.

    Democrats require voters who have the memory of a lemming in order to keep spewing their lies, distortions, innuendo and false promises.
     
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    I have found that Ron Paul supporters sound a LOT like Obama supporters; naïve, clueless, economically challenged and ignorant about global politics. The only slight difference is that Obama supporters think that BIG Government is good; but ironically and hypocritically only if THEIR "deciders" are in charge, whereas, Ron Paul supporters think that Ron should be the only Government.
     
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    So a quote by a member of the CFR indicates Newts disdain for the Constitution?

    I cannot fathom a weaker argument or one that requires greater ignorance for what Newt stands for.

    Let's hear what Newt has to say regarding the Constitution:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qJwscaR7dU"]Newt Gingrich Speech is wayyyyyyyyyyyy better than ron paul's - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Newt's affinity for Alvin Toffler and his book "The Third Wave" might better explain Newt's opinion of the Constitution.

    On the Constitution, from The Third Wave....

    "For the system of government you fashioned including the very principles on which you based it, is increasingly obsolete, and hence increasingly, if inadvertently, oppressive and dangerous to our welfare. It must be radically changed and a new system of government invented, a democracy for the 21st century. For this wisdom, above all, I thank Mr. Jefferson who helped create the system that served us so well for so long, and that now must, in its turn, die and be replaced."

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    On November 11, 1994, still bubbling and cocksure over the Republican takeover of both Houses, his coming coronation as Speaker of the House, and his annointing as King of the Republican Revolution, Gingrich couldn't resist exploiting the moment to put in a free plug for something he so devoutly believed in.

    "The core of our Contract," and the solution for those "trying to figure out how to put me in a box," he said, could be found in a book by futurist Alvin Toffler called "The Third Wave" to which he added: "I am a conservative futurist ."

    http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0701thirdwayp3.htm
     
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    It doesn't matter who gets the Rep nomination. They all have such a specific following that they'll never get together enough to pull off an election win. I mean, without Diebold or the Florida Election Commission.
     
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    THREE TIMES. He swore before God THREE TIMES. Family values, and the right wing, on display for all to see.
     

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