Newt Gingrich actually gets it

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Truth Detector, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. driller80545

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    How can you support the CDC when you are 14 trillion dollars overdrawn at the bank?
     
  2. Truth Detector

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    Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    I have found that Ron Paul supporters sound a LOT like Obama supporters; naïve, clueless, economically challenged and ignorant about global politics. The only slight difference is that Obama supporters think that BIG Government is good; but ironically and hypocritically only if THEIR "deciders" are in charge, whereas, Ron Paul supporters think that Ron should be the only Government.

    I am perfectly aware of what Liberty is and the steady erosion of it over time; and I am also quite familiar with Ron Paul's irrational desires to isolate America, go back to a gold standard and never involve this nation in another war. These issues alone, among the many, are enough to suggest a massive disaster bigger than even Obama has been able to construct.

    If Ron Paul does not win the nomination, which he will never accomplish in his lifetime, are you going to (1) stay at home and not vote; (2) vote for a third party candidate that better aligns with your views of Liberty; or (3) vote for the Republican Candidate?
     
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    Originally Posted by Margot
    With the exception of Huntsman... everyone on the panel was saying BOLD, stupid things.

    The Republicans don't want the presidency because they don't know how to fix the problems either.

    Ah yes, someone you talked to represents all Conservatives and of course ALL conservatives get ALL their news from Fox.

    I am quite certain the irony of those claiming others are the idiots while making such laughably stupid claims like this escapes you and Margo.
     
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    I suppose you just know ole' Newtie didn't vote the way the official record says he did, right?

    Or that he has said this?

    "The core of our Contract," and the solution for those "trying to figure out how to put me in a box," he said, could be found in a book by futurist Alvin Toffler called "The Third Wave" to which he added: "I am a conservative futurist ."

    "On the Constitution, from The Third Wave....

    "For the system of government you fashioned including the very principles on which you based it, is increasingly obsolete, and hence increasingly, if inadvertently, oppressive and dangerous to our welfare. It must be radically changed and a new system of government invented, a democracy for the 21st century. For this wisdom, above all, I thank Mr. Jefferson who helped create the system that served us so well for so long, and that now must, in its turn, die and be replaced."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So who's hallucinating?
     
  6. loong

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    Bottom line:

    Your DESPERATE FEAR of the GREAT GINGRICH is showing.

    Take a few deep breaths....RELAX ....and accept the inevitable: The OwebamaCRAPSTER is gonna be bouncing outa the WH on his skinny putrescent arse come 2012 ...... bounced out, hopefully, by GINGRICH, THE ABSOLUTELY BEST MAN FOR THE JOB.

    Or, possibly by ROMNEY or CAIN ...... either one is a shooin to turn the OwebamaCrapster into a pile of feces.
     
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    Anyone with half a brain can see that you don’t have a clue as to what the heck you are talking about, and cannot comprehend a fact if it walked up and slapped you on the head.

    This is why you cannot discuss or debate if you will, with polar opposite, politically biased, partisan hacks or their beloved professional politicians from either party.

    Now if you had noticed that your sources have been severely edited and the two topics are completely unrelated and making the FALSE claim that Newt was somehow all for the No-Fly Zone on March 8th ot 7th or whatever your laughably inept sources attempted to state.

    I am hardly surprised that the Conservative Newt haters would parrot the idiot talking points of a left wing blogosphere and lamestream press in the tank for Obama; but the ONLY person doing a flip-flop which the left wish to deflect from is Obama who falsely claimed we should not be involved in regime change in Iraq but now suddenly thinks we should be involved in regime change in Libya where we have even less business being in.

    But alas, the subtelties of Newt’s arguments and Obama’s lies and distortions are missed by those who prefer parroting the idiot talking points of the left and DNC.

    I am quite certain the irony of your own childish banter escapes you. (Hint: read your comments above.)

    Ah yes, the old laughably naive claim about no one caring about the greater good except for those who are in lock step with your laughably naive notions about the world.

    The only one's not part of any solution are the morons who parrot the idiot talking points of leftists and the DNC in a vacuum of reality or the facts and whom arrogantly presume that because they stand for Marxist ideologies their "intelligence" (an oxymoron) somehow trumps all others and individuals with far greater intelligence and experience like Newt are somehow idiots.

    I assure you, the irony of your claims completely escape you. Now run along and spam someone else's threads with your blatant nonsense and bumper sticker logic.

    Newt’s coherent explanation of what occurred on March 7th and subsequently even though you won’t attempt any level of comprehension on this:

    From the moment of the president’s declaration, he put the prestige and authority of the United States on the line. After March 3, anything short of a successful, public campaign for regime change would have been seen as a defeat for the United States.

    That’s why during a March 7th Greta van Susteren interview, I asserted that the president should establish a no-fly zone "this evening.” After March 3rd, the President should have moved immediately to consult with Congress to implement a no-fly zone, while also making it clear the US would welcome involvement from other nations.

    Instead, he did the opposite. The President wasted weeks trying to get approval from the United Nations instead of Congress, the result of which was a weak mandate from the UN that changed the mission to one of humanitarian intervention.

    Yet, by that standard we should also be using US forces in the Sudan, Syria, Zimbabwe, Yemen and more countries.

    Given the President's public statements and the multitude of other humanitarian crises throughout the world, the only rational purpose for an intervention with US forces in Libya is to replace Gadaffi.

    Now that we have US forces engaged, any result less than the removal of Gadaffi from power will be considered a defeat.

    For that reason, I believe we must support the mission and see it through.
     
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    The republican and democratic parties need to just blow the hell up. Everyone's different and has different goals and thoughts. If someone believes everything a conservative should or someone believes everything a liberal should then they are just lying to themselves. This TUNNEL VISION needs to stop.
     
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    The differences are CLEAR CUT.

    The arguments on BOTH sides are DIRECTLY IN OPPOSITION to each other.

    So......One side is WRONG. The other side is CORRECT.

    A rational person should choose ONE of the sides.

    Being a fence sitter on this CLEAR CUT ISSUE is STUPID !!!
     
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    Why does a person who believes in small government have to be against abortion or someone that believes in the free market be an atheist.

    Anyone that blindly follows all of the beliefs of any group is just simple minded and too scared to make a decision themselves.

    I can not be classified as anything and will never let someone tell me my beliefs.
     
  11. loong

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    No one COMPLETELY AGREES with even one's best friend, who is ALMOST ALWAYS in complete agreement with you.

    THAT IS A GIVEN.

    And, unless you are a complete donkey, no one can ever believe everything any one tells him ..... except for religious people....who are basically delusional. They believe in La La Land stuff. But, even THEY have their own opinions in spite of their shamans.

    But, just as there is a distinct difference between Catholics and Protestants......there is a helluva difference between Rational People & the Owebamarrhoidals.
     
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    If ever there was an explanation how morons on the left continue to be elected, this would be it.
     
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    This is hilarious; the leftists pretending they care about God, morals and family values.

    You people crack me up!
     
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    So it doesnt come down to one side being completely right and one being wrong. Each individual thing should be judged separately? Then why the almost straight partisanship on all of the issues? This is why I cannot be classified and why I have been called a right winger and a left winger on this board. People stick to the beliefs that their party or affiliations tell them to believe. It is really sad. When someone comes along and agrees with the liberal stance on one thing and conservative stance on another, you guys just get confused and start calling them names.
     
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    Sorry TD.

    But, the Owebamarrhoidal Idjits, while not being creative, or innovative in anything salubrious.....are without peer in creating ABSOLUTELY ASTONISHING CRAP that constantly surprises me.....and, I ALWAYS expect the very worse from this slime.

    So, while you may be satisfied with this particular episode as an explanation of Owebamarrhoidals' Idiocy.... I have more faith in their ability to surpass themselves from one level of IGNORANCE & STUPIDY to a more egregious one.

    Please forgive me for disagreeing with your assessment. Your assessments being usually exemplary without fail.
     
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    I made a very informative comment on this issue.

    I made it very clear that while one may disagree on some minor points.....and they have to be minor within the parameters involved....MAJOR Disagreement on MAJOR issues...either place one in the other camp.....OR, create a THIRD Category somehow DISTINCTLY different from the INITIAL TWO under scrutiny.

    Admittedly, in my original post, I didn't state the THIRD CATEGORY ....although I hoped that was implicit.
     
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    That is a big part of the problem. Our 2 party system forces you into a category. I refuse to be a part of either. I am all for Newt even though I am an agnostic. I think he has shown some individuality in his past by breaking from his party and supporting what he believed in a the time. That to me is not a flip flopper but a man that can make compromises for the greater good and accomplish many things unlike the current group of buffoons in congress and the White House. Things will never get done at the pace we are going now..
     
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    Well, certainly Newt doesn't take these things seriously. He doesn't Your post doesn't change that.
     
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    Newt is a pretty good speaker. Great voice. I imagine "NO comment." would even sound knowledgeable coming from him. He was quite comfortable speaking to the choir. I loved when everyone cheered when he said "impeachment". I think it was about some crazy killers who were not caught by someone. I guess thats a reason to impeach...,someone. What does he get exactly? I guess if I don't understand it means I am a brainwashed fool.
    THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!!!! but he has great tailors.
     

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