No Drug Tests For Food Stamp Recipients, Feds Tell Georgia

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  1. danielpalos

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    I would agree with you if we also had morals testing companies on a for-profit basis and not just drug testing companies on that basis under our form of capitalism.
     
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    No one has any idea why those 250 didn't show up, some of them may have wanted to evade the tests, other just may not have needed it. Nobody knows and therefore is nothing but speculation.

    That these results are radically inconsistent with other attempts at this strengthen my case that this is speculatory and likely fabricated to make the law makers who passed it look better.

    Are the only people who failed the test, consistent with the data from Florida that only a tiny fraction of people failed. If you want to champion pissing tax payer dollars away on a failed program I guess that's your prerogative.
     
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    Whatever that means.

    What's really important is for you to realize that someone else with a job that doesn't have the same loving care for the useless that you do has no moral obligation to subsidize their indolence.

    Since you care so much about the useless, it's up to you to donate as much of your own money as possible to make your dream of their never-ending comfort become reality.

    Since those people have NO RIGHT to another person's money, it's UP TO YOU TO SAVE THE WORLD.

    You can do. All you have do is want to.

    The Mayor bets you really don't want. You want to argue about it and force someone else to do something you know you should do but are too cheap and stingy.
     
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    The missus works in a pain clinic....guess what, there are those who turn around and walk out because they know they'll drop dirty. She says out of the 150/wk or so, about 12% refuse their test, so they don't get the required medication for pain.
     
  5. Professor Peabody

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    It's right there. Not speculation. It failed in Florida because it was a poorly written law struck down by the courts, I'll be back like voter ID.
     
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    Well...at the very least then...even the mention of testing seemed to weed out the people who didnt really need it. It seems even better in that case, as they also saved the costs of actually doing the tests. :mrgreen:



    Edit:
    Saw that part late. Seems to put the ambiguity to rest.
     
  7. danielpalos

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    It means that even if everyone obtained a doctorate there would still not be enough employers with enough musical chairs.

    Providing for the general welfare could solve for a simple social dilemma in a market friendly manner under our form of Capitalism.
     
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    forcing one's will upon another is probably the greatest of sins..........
     
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    Agree 100%
     
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    12 people failed, that's it, straight from the story. The 250 didn't take the test for reasons that can't be known, that's the epitome of speculation.
     
  11. danielpalos

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    yes, requiring a work ethic in any at-will employment State is one example of that moral turpitude of bearing false witness to our own laws.
     
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    Hmmmm.

    Drug tests are routine required for any number of jobs, but not for moochers.
     
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    Why complain about taxes? You can always quit your day job and get a "free ride" if paying taxes is too much of a burden for you. I am sure some pothead somewhere won't mind making up the difference when going to a pot shop.
     
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    One reason welfare was created was to reduce panhandling. Be prepared for a criminal underground of prostitution, drugs and a host of other crimes if welfare was cut off.

    Another reason why welfare was created is because many people can't compete in a sink-or-swim society. If the only employer in town has no job openings, or if you have a disability, welfare picks up the slack.
     
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    How many people litigate for-cause employment in our at-will employment States.
     
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    And if those twelve failed, and saved the state money, the program was worth the investment.

    What should also be done, of course, if for the welfare applicant to sign a witnessed affadavit that they are not purchasing or consuming illegal controlled substances prior to the test, and if test results come back positive, those people should be prosecuted for perjury, attempted theft of government funds, and put in prison, where they can fix roads or something.
     
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    Babies, murdered, where was this? Was it in a FEMA concentration camp, in your head, me thinks the later.
     
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    Tax dollars don't pay our salary (unless you work for the govt), tax dollars do pay to do these tests and the amount of people who fails and don't receive benefits doesn't cover the costs of the tests.

    I guess fiscal conservatism goes right out the window when you get a chance to kill brown people on the other side of the world or drug test moochers.
     
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    Only the right is cognitively dissonant to actually be in favor of more, Police State USA, on a for-profit basis. What a bunch of poet communists who don't even know it.
     
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    Yup, boggles me how they manage to only bundle this kind of "Liberty" with an EBT card. :wink:
     
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    all very good reasons for arming one's self. Thanks for pointing that out to us.....
     
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    I agree; financial planners are citizens in the several States, too.
     
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    You have to be being intentionally obtuse.

    It cost more to do the tests than what was saved in all instances including this one, despite the manufactured 250 people who didn't fail anything. It was a waste of money in Florida, Kentucky and every single other place it's been tried.

    Oh great, so we can spend even more on them than we otherwise might. This is quite possibly the worst suggestion I've ever heard. Ever.
     
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    Police State?

    By having conditions on the voluntary handout you are seeking? LOL...I shouldnt be surprised from someone advocating people quit their jobs...but still. Do you have this Police State mentality with any of the conditions on this?

    For example, Is it a Police State to say no you cannot buy booze with it?
     

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