No Drug Tests For Food Stamp Recipients, Feds Tell Georgia

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  1. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Applying for and accepting Welfare is also at will.
     
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    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Cutting off your nose to spite your face and being willing to do so with other tax payers dollars. I try not to be nasty but that's pretty classless...

    Hasn't, didn't. It was a complete failure in the few places it was tried and subsequently redacted for exactly that reason.

    Good of you though to want to throw away other folks money on your moral crusade... =\
     
  3. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL...."Moral Fortitude" is what you bums are calling it these days? I'll still call it lazy freeloader thank you, and no...anyone with a shred of self respect wouldnt go that route.


    Quit my job....hahaha. Thanks Nancy, then I can go follow my passions....

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    Professor Peabody already threw this entire reponse in the trash where it belongs. Utah saved 350,000 in first year....
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So much rank dishonesty, so little time.

    I realize that the lunatic Leftist fringe is hostile to the concept of personal responsibility, but the bias here is against welfare recipients who spend their money on drugs instead of food. Furthermore, if you're going to drag children into this, there's no excuse for parents to be blowing their money on drugs instead of their childrens' necessities. Those irresponsible parents aren't victims, they're criminally negligent individuals who deserve to get keel-hauled before a judge.

    All that having been said, officials in the state of Georgia should know that they have no control over federal welfare programs. This is an issue that has to be dealt with in Washington, and you can rest easy knowing that your Leftist comrades in DC won't deal with it. They'll continue to make excuses why taxpayers should subsidize people's recreational drug habits.
     
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    It is based on the social concept of need, and the State providing according to its ability.
     
  6. Professor Peabody

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    From Michigan's EBT program website.

     
  7. danielpalos

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    All you need to do is complain about paying taxes instead of just quiting your job to avoid paying taxes and get a "free ride".
     
  8. Anikdote

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    Only 12 people tested positive. 12 people!

    It's pure speculation.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/drug-test-policies-end-failure

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    It didn't, you should try reading the entire story. Only 12 people failed the test.
     
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    It's also at will. If it's good enough for those producing...it's good enough for those taking. Or lets just abolish drug tests altogether. No reason those who actually work should have less "Liberty" because of it.
     
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    And which part of this post contradicted with that I said?
     
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    More than 350,000 dollars saved by spending 30k. Puts your cost argument right in the can.
     
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    C'mon bro.... That much wasn't saved, that was the speculated amount based on a number that's not at all consistent with the actual results.

    Only 12 people failed the test. 12 and less than 2% in Florida before it was scrapped.
     
  13. Professor Peabody

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    The savings come from the 250 that declined to proceed with the process once they knew about the drug test..............Didn't you read the whole article?
     
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    let's see....I have to take a drug test, and possible random testing, to get and keep a job.
    Cops don't take random drug tests. They are protected by their unions.
    Politicians don't have to take drug test, yet they take money form us in wages and do a pitiful job.
    Welfare recipients are not required to take drug tests, and take my money to spend as they see fit.
    And some don't see the problem with that?
    It used to be you were given a book of scrip for food stamps, but the comm-ocrats said, that's too embarrassing, so now they use debit cards, still without one drug test.
    We have to be drug tested to have our money taken then given away, but those who receive it are free to do whatever they please without fear of being tested for crack, etc. They can even be arrested for up to three months and the money keeps rolling in, thus, they are rewarded for being criminals.....
     
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    It may help if you negotiate a for cause employment agreement, upfront. If an employer wants those "morals" why shouldn't they pay for them.
     
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    Inventing ways to punish the poor is a great sport for some people. Instead of trying to integrate them into mainstream society (poverty is exclusionary), non-consumers are seen as criminogenic others.
     
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    It could cover it.

    Good thing you used to word "could", because it can't because it doesn't.

    Article 1, Section 8, spefically enumerates ALL the powers delegated to Congress.

    No other powers are allowed. EVERY other power you can imagine a government should do...is reserved to the several states.

    Let's see if we can hold your hand....no, no, no....the Mayor picks up dog (*)(*)(*)(*) with his hands and doesn't want to get his hands dirty...and explain things to you.

    lb]Article I, Section 8, Part 1: 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;[/b]

    Authorizes the Congress to COLLECT TAXES.

    That's it.

    Parts 2 through 18 define what the Congress MAY SPEND those taxes on.

    You be happy to realize that since "WELFARE" is not in any of those last 17 Parts, then Welfare, as the Rodents use the term today, is not allowed.

    YOU do realize, of course you do, that Part 1 authorizes collections of taxes for the "defense of the United States" AND Parts 10 thru 16 SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZE the Congress to SPEND money on matters of military relevance.

    There is NO Part of article I, Section 8, that specifically authorizes Congress to throw good money after bad on completely useless freeloading Rodent-voting bums, many of whom aren't in the country legally anyway.

    The Mayor will now have to wash his hand.
     
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    No, it was speculated that those 250 didn't do the test for that reason, pure speculation made in an effort to support a failed program.

    If it was so successful then explain why it failed so horribly in both Kentucky and Florida.

    12 people, that's it.
     
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    The Powers to pay the Debts, and provide for the common defense and general welfare are general powers.
     
  20. RichT2705

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    Yeah, speculated. Im sure theres many other reasons they choose not to end their "starvation" that just conveniently coincided with the tests....Face it. Those were the ones who were smart enough to know they were going to fail.

    Those 12 you keep harping on? Those were the dumb ones who still showed up for whatever reason.
     
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    The Mayor knows of a way to integrate them into mainstream society.

    Turn off welfare, then EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM will have to find a job, and with a job they become TAXPAYERS, and thus have joined mainstream America.

    It's WONDERFUL!

    Not only that, if the welfare is turned off our own indigenous indolent indigents will suddenly discover all those illegal alien criminal invaders standing on the corner of your local Home Depot are taking THEIR JOBS.

    Wonders.

    They NEVER cease.
     
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    ANY person with a commercial driver's license must be randomly drug tested. If the person doesn't want to be drug tested, they don't need to apply for the job. The same should hold true for Government handouts. No one is forcing anyone to apply for Government benefits if they don't want to be drug tested. They can always get a job picking lettuce.
     
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    Well, that's a matter worthy of comment too.

    ONLY in America are the poorest, the most starving....

    ....the FATTEST.
     
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    By not planning to solve for any rate of unemployment you can only plan to fail at solving poverty.
     
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    The same should hold true for elected and appointed politicians....except in that case the results should made public after a retest on a positive comes back positive.
     

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